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ICC Strategy (doable 10/25NM) #789

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WIP

@hermensbas hermensbas marked this pull request as draft December 16, 2024 10:22
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Converted to draft since it is a WIP

@Noscopezz Noscopezz changed the title ICC up until PP ICC up until BQL Dec 18, 2024
improved shadow logic, ranged spread for easier shadow handling
Bots should only go and teleport to the mage that is actually below zero now
Ranged should spread more quickly and freak out less
fixed ranged spread (both)
fixed spore logic (fester)
Improved big ooze tanking (static pos, todo kiting)
ooze explosion spread mechanic fix
ooze pool fix
Player needs to mark rotface with skull icon, oterwise bots try to attack oozes
todo: better melee logic in air phase, better melee flame spread
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Interested to see how this works =). Wondering, is the strategy including heroic mechanics? ie pacman play with Lady Deathwhisper?

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noisiver commented Dec 21, 2024

It does not yet include heroic. They haven't killed Lich King on normal yet but eventually it will include that. I'm just typing what's been said in the playerbots discord server.

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No Hc yet, tank is curently just doing basic stuff, shades and adds were implemented tho, currently I am trying to get normal playable, and mostly figuring out and improving stuff as I go along. Almoust each boss has some new mechanic which at first seems simple to implement but usually turns out to be really tricky to implement. As I said in discord, I picked up programming a month ago, inspired by this mod and wanted to share my progress with others :) . I plan to fix/add/improve stuff after basic stuff is done.

Sister Svalna, bots can pickup spears and throw at svalna when she has shield up

VDW added healer strats to use portal and heal boss (atm druids are for raid healing only, so use druide + any other healer, ideally player should be healer)
todo (focus on supressers, add healer rotations, atm they use quickest spell they can)

Sindragosa
Added tank boss manipulation (boss orientation and position)
bots detect (buffet, unchained magic and chilled to the bone and act accordingly)
bots detect frost beacon move to safe spot and los frost bombs around them, while dpsing tombs (todo stop dps if only one tomb is left, if we have frost bombs around, not a big deal atm since in nm they dont one shot)
Last phase bots los behind tomb to loose buffet, tanks swap when they have hi buffet count.
Player should tell bots with skull rti if they should kill tomb or focus boss.
todo (dynamic tomb los in last phase so that healers can see tank but also hide behind tomb to break los from boss)

Removed some debug messages, improved LM spike action (nearest bots also try to help kill it)

Improved Lady Deathwshiper shade action (only targeted bots will run away instead of every bot that is near it)

dbs improved tank switch

I recommend to use 3 healers (just to be safe) and 2 paladin tanks (warr seems to struggle with agro) in 10 man
25 man 6-7 healers (just to be safe) Since most of the bosses are about survival and not dps
@Noscopezz Noscopezz changed the title ICC up until BQL ICC up until SINDRAGOSA Dec 29, 2024
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Sister Svalna, bots can pickup spears and throw at svalna when she has shield up

VDW added healer strats to use portal and heal boss (atm druids are for raid healing only, so use druide + any other healer, ideally player should be healer)
todo (focus on supressers, add healer rotations, atm they use quickest spell they can)

Sindragosa
Added tank boss manipulation (boss orientation and position)
bots detect (buffet, unchained magic and chilled to the bone and act accordingly)
bots detect frost beacon move to safe spot and los frost bombs around them, while dpsing tombs (todo stop dps if only one tomb is left, if we have frost bombs around, not a big deal atm since in nm they dont one shot)
Last phase bots los behind tomb to loose buffet, tanks swap when they have hi buffet count.
Player should tell bots with skull rti if they should kill tomb or focus boss.
todo (dynamic tomb los in last phase so that healers can see tank but also hide behind tomb to break los from boss)

Removed some debug messages, improved LM spike action (nearest bots also try to help kill it)

Improved Lady Deathwshiper shade action (only targeted bots will run away instead of every bot that is near it)

dbs improved tank switch

Remove need to mark Main Tank, bots do it on their own
I recommend to use 3 healers (just to be safe) and 2 paladin tanks (warr seems to struggle with agro) in 10 man
25 man 6-7 healers (just to be safe) Since most of the bosses are about survival and not dps

LK added

Improved tank switching for all bosses

Fixed PP gas cloud kiting
Malleable goo todo (dont know how to detect it since its not object or npc) just summon ranged bots to safe position to bypass

BPC  fixed OT sometimes not tanking kele
kinectic bombs todo (for now player should take care of them)

Sindragosa fixed rare case when she is in air phase but tombs went to last phase position

LK
Bots can handle necrotic
Bots can handle adds
Bots should focus valkyre that actually grabbed someone (if unlucky and player just use attack command and summon bots to you if they are far away from you) if they grab bots you can either summon to make them useless or let bots cc them and do it legit way.

Defile should be watched by player and once it was cast just summon bots to you
Vile spirits for some reason go to the ground and get nuked by bots aoe spells so there is not much to be done

**Player needs to be alive the whole LK fight since you will have to watch out for frost spehers (sometimes bots ignore them), summon bots when defile is up and summon ranged bots if they get stuck near shambling or raging spirits since their aoe will wipe you)

all in all LK  is doable both 10 and 25nm, player needs to have knowledge of lk fight and needs to know how to use multibot addon and make macros for eg summoning or commanding groups of bots or individual bots)

Dont forget frost/shadow/nature resist auras in whole ICC since it will help alot

I have done whole icc 10 and 25 with 2 pala tanks, 2/5 heals and rest dps,  if you use +1 or +2 heals it should be easier (since I was testing I did close to 0 dmg in fights same with heals)
@Noscopezz Noscopezz changed the title ICC up until SINDRAGOSA ICC Strategy (doable 10/25NM) Jan 2, 2025
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LK Update (doable)
LK added

Improved tank switching for all bosses

Fixed PP gas cloud kiting
Malleable goo todo (dont know how to detect it since its not object or npc) just summon ranged bots to safe position to bypass

BPC fixed OT sometimes not tanking kele
kinectic bombs todo (for now player should take care of them)

Sindragosa fixed rare case when she is in air phase but tombs went to last phase position

LK
Bots can handle necrotic
Bots can handle adds
Bots should focus valkyre that actually grabbed someone (if unlucky and player just use attack command and summon bots to you if they are far away from you) if they grab bots you can either summon to make them useless or let bots cc them and do it legit way.

Defile should be watched by player and once it was cast just summon bots to you
Vile spirits for some reason go to the ground and get nuked by bots aoe spells so there is not much to be done

**Player needs to be alive the whole LK fight since you will have to watch out for frost spehers (sometimes bots ignore them), summon bots when defile is up and summon ranged bots if they get stuck near shambling or raging spirits since their aoe will wipe you)

all in all LK is doable both 10 and 25nm, player needs to have knowledge of lk fight and needs to know how to use multibot addon and make macros for eg summoning or commanding groups of bots or individual bots)

Dont forget frost/shadow/nature resist auras in whole ICC since it will help alot

I have done whole icc 10 and 25 with 2 pala tanks, 2/5 heals and rest dps, if you use +1 or +2 heals it should be easier (since I was testing I did close to 0 dmg in fights same with heals)

@Noscopezz Noscopezz marked this pull request as ready for review January 2, 2025 18:47
@Noscopezz Noscopezz closed this Jan 2, 2025
@Noscopezz Noscopezz reopened this Jan 2, 2025
Malleable mechanic added (simple spread for now)
Gas cloud fixed (Bots sometimes got stuck between puddle and kite location)
Bots detect and avoid defile (they struggle to find a way back to the boss around it tho, use summon to help them)

Melee bots should be able to stand behind/to the flank of shambling/spirits
@hermensbas hermensbas merged commit 16d06c4 into liyunfan1223:master Jan 3, 2025
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