Soulifies Backpacks & Duffels

[Sun-Soaked]

About The Pull Request

Backpacks and Duffel bags can now carry bulky items, and Duffel bags now have more storage space.

Backpacks cannot be opened while worn on your back.
Duffels now cannot be opened unless placed on the ground.

Why It's Good For The Game

This gives satchel/messenger bag's low storage space an upside(access from back), while justifying putting bigger items in storage objects that really should be able to carry them.
Duffel bags are now very well-storage spaced, and can be specialized as a kind of stash bag.

Backpack and duffel bags may need to have even more storage space to compensate, but for now I've been pretty frugal in buffing it.
It's soul. Soon you will understand my vision

Changelog

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balance: Backpacks can now carry Bulky items, but can no longer be accessed while on your back.
balance: Duffel bags can now carry more, but must be placed on the ground to be opened.
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[thearbiber]

The lowered storage for satchels feels a bit worse to play with. The duffels and all that are pretty useful tools now.

[Sun-Soaked]

The lowered storage for satchels feels a bit worse to play with. The duffels and all that are pretty useful tools now.

satchel storage wasn't actually changed. check the changed files

[thgvr]

placebo is real

[thearbiber]

I may have gaslit myself

[SomeguyManperson]

it was bc this actually swaps them to use satchel storage size from backpack storage size
placebo is FAKE

[Sun-Soaked]

it was bc this actually swaps them to use satchel storage size from backpack storage size placebo is FAKE

fuck

[Ratvarr]

Need I say more

Dufflebags.

[Jedi-Toothpaste]

Need I say more Dufflebags.

I thought the storage would have been reduced since before duffelbags could only hold four bulky items, but I don't think the amount it could store was changed?

EDIT: ignore me i'm stupid, I think duffels should hold less actually

edit 2: I commented this on the wrong PR but you saw it anyway:
you can take your backpack off, hold the inventory open and re-equip it. Allowing you to take items out without taking it back off

[Sun-Soaked]

Need I say more Dufflebags.

top guns should not be tiny size- also duffels have been nerfed since this-
but this is also kind of inevitable as a consequence of Real item sizes

a storage object than can hold 5 bulky items can hold 10 normal ones, or 20 small ones, and so on.
We'll need to do more sanity adjustment to pull a bunch of items up from tiny into small and certain objects from bulky into huge.

This only increased the storage of duffels by 1 bulky item, so this was already pretty much an issue

[Jedi-Toothpaste]

followup to my issue from wednesday
You can still keep the inventory open and pull items out of a backpack/duffel
HOWEVER
you can put items back into inventories inside of the bag, for instance, you can put items into a box from the backpack

and of course, you can take it out as the inventory is open already, and furthermore, because the box doesn't do the backpack check, you can shuffle items in and out allowing you to use it like a very crap storage

lastly, since the box storage is bigger it's actually viable to do this

[generalthrax]

I have to say, satchel being 4 normal-sized items only feels. Very bad. Like terribly so.

[thearbiber]

Satchels now hold 4 normal items. This is painful.

[Sun-Soaked]

if anyone figures out what this is or it appears in testing from a specific Thing ingame please let me know bc I can't reproduce it & it's apparently coming by way of like /obj/machinery/examine, and I have no idea how that's happening

[generalthrax]

Seems duffelbags can no longer be accessed even on the ground. Rations similarly can no longer be opened.

[Sun-Soaked]

Seems duffelbags can no longer be accessed even on the ground. Rations similarly can no longer be opened.

issue with an access_check() refactor I did. should be fine now

[tantspants]

Backpacks can't be accessed on the ground. It gives the same message as when you try when it's on your back.

[randy10122]

hot take: i think the backpack changes are not good for gameplay at all
duffel changes are whatever - theyve always been the Niche Choice in bags
but why change backpacks? the way i see it, the only difference between a backpack and a satchel should be visual. why sacrifice style for changes that, ill be completely honest, i have only heard complaints about?