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Try using interface package in navigation screen re-design #28686

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Attempts to use the interface package with the design changes in #28675. This PR merges into that one rather than master.

There's a few things that'll probably need some cleanup or adjustment to align more with @shaunandrews' vision, and we don't necessarily have to stick with the exact same layout as the block editor.

How has this been tested?

  1. Navigate to the navigation editor.
  2. Look at it.
  3. Click on it.

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@talldan talldan added [Type] Enhancement A suggestion for improvement. General Interface Parts of the UI which don't fall neatly under other labels. [Feature] Navigation Screen labels Feb 3, 2021
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This is a great improvement to @shaunandrews 's already very promising PR 🎉

Two things we can iterate on in subsequent PRs:

  • Header in mobile view isn't fully responsive:

Screen Shot 2021-02-04 at 5 22 28 pm

  • There's an extra tab stop when shift-tabbing from the block to its toolbar; focus goes from the contenteditable to the li wrapper and only then to the toolbar.

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// Hack: Stop useBlockSelectionClearer from clearing block selection when the
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Hm, how's the block editor dealing with this?

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I think because the top toolbar is rendered outside of the editor canvas it won't receive click events. Similarly the non-top toolbar uses a slot to also render outside of the canvas, so both don't suffer from this issue.

We can probably fix in the same way, and I think we were going to look at removing the fixed toolbar, which should do that.

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gziolo commented Feb 4, 2021

How does this @wordpress/interface abstraction look? Does it need further work? It would be the right moment to reevaluate whether it fulfills its purpose and could be considered stable.

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talldan commented Feb 4, 2021

How does this @wordpress/interface abstraction look? Does it need further work? It would be the right moment to reevaluate whether it fulfills its purpose and could be considered stable.

@gziolo Good question. I didn't realise it's yet to be made stable. It seems generally pretty easy to work with.

I wonder if we might consider renaming it EditorInterfaceSkeleton. I would imagine if we started branching out to other types of admin screen we might want other interfaces. E.g PostListInterfaceSkeleton. Or maybe these would be different packages.

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gziolo commented Feb 4, 2021

How does this @wordpress/interface abstraction look? Does it need further work? It would be the right moment to reevaluate whether it fulfills its purpose and could be considered stable.

@gziolo Good question. I didn't realise it's yet to be made stable. It seems generally pretty easy to work with.

@youknowriad, @mcsf, and @mtias – should we plan steps to make @wordpress/interface its own bundle in WP Core, or is it still too early? This PR is a good opportunity to validate its usefulness.

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I think this might make sense, just not yet. Lets get the design PR this is based on merged first, then we can revisit the top area UI using the interface package.

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Is there anything missing here (apart from conflict solving) before we can merge? I'd really like to get this into #28675 before that one is merged, as the changes here improve usability substantially.

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talldan commented Feb 8, 2021

I've chatted to @shaunandrews about this PR, and it doesn't seem clear just yet how this fits in with the design direction of the navigation screen, so I won't be taking it forwards.

If we don't end up implementing interface, we should look at how we can establish some of the functionality it provides:

  • Navigable accessible regions (they aren't fully implemented in this PR, but the functionality is built into interface)
  • Responsive sidebar
  • Plugin areas (these are low priority right now, the screen layout needs to be more firmly established before we can think about extensibility, but this is a nice bonus of using interface).

I think the right way to go would be to build a navigation editor version of interface, which doesn't have to be complicated, but it'd provide a nice way of swapping between layouts if we ever decide to change again in the future.

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Curious to know what exactly in the the interface skeleton didn't fit the navigation screen?

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Curious to know what exactly in the the interface skeleton didn't fit the navigation screen?

I will trust the implementation aspects to developers stronger than myself, but focus specifically on the visual and design motivation. And the design motivation is well outlined, and driven, by #28675. For me the key drivers were:

  • The navigation screen was a big white canvas, sharing some of the basic structure of the post editor. But whereas you are meant to edit entire posts and pages in the post editor, this screen is meant for a single block, and the implication of a canvas simply added confusion.
  • It was a mixture of design, part post editor, part classic WordPress with the gray. But it was in neither camp, and did not make good use of the space used.

As I see it, #28675 was an impressive first step, and the key benefits it brought were:

  • A gray background and a page title in the top left corner, immediately reminiscent of classic WordPress screens.
  • An emphasis on just the single Navigation block, as opposed to an emphasis on a customizable canvas.

I don't think the value of this can be overstated: it now feels like a screen dediated to editing navigation menus, just as it is. That said, I think it also opens op some opportunities for further refinements:

  • The forced vertical orientation of the navigation block comes from a good instinct, but may carry with it some technical challenges. If this doesn't work, the list view, how it's opened and toggled, could be revisited as a way to toggle between the two.
  • There's potentially a treatment of the inspector dialog that makes it not go all the way to the top, opening up the possibility of a top toolbar as we're used to, but with a gray background and title on the left, a riff on what @annezazu refers to. The key bit here isn't that there isn't a top toolbar component, but that it isn't treated like a "top toolbar".

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talldan commented Feb 9, 2021

Maybe in previous communications I shouldn't have used the term 'top toolbar', as I feel like that's the part that has caused a strong negative reaction given the way it's in quotes 😬

But given what has been written, I feel like there are some misconceptions about what the interface package does. Some further detail.

It provides:

  • A component that is a responsive skeleton for a page. A skeleton should generally only provide a layout.
  • Accessible regions.
  • State management for visibility of parts of the interface.
  • A handful of other useful features, like plugin areas. This is something that's low priority right now in the navigation editor, but might be useful in the future.

It doesn't prevent us from using different colours or visual styles for the regions.

The only differences in this PR to what was in #28675:

  • The top bar extends across the full screen width. Probably the hardest thing to solve, but I don't see this as a dealbreaker, we can look into bringing it closer to the style in Navigation Screen: Design Iteration #28675.
  • The top bar has a border at the bottom. This can either be removed by overriding the style or treated as an optional part of Interface. Personally, I'm not sure why Interface has this, it's not really in keeping with the idea of a skeleton.
  • The sidebar can be toggled. This will be important for mobile viewports, and might not be something that can be avoided.
  • The screen is already much closer towards being responsive.

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Maybe in previous communications I shouldn't have used the term 'top toolbar', as I feel like that's the part that has caused a strong negative reaction given the way it's in quotes 😬

I do apologize if that came off as negative! That was not at all the intention. The potential next steps I suggested were meant to be inclusive of that as a legitimate path forward. The goal is to ship a great navigation block screen which can grow even better with iteration. Shaun's PR was a massive step towards that, and absolutely additional steps possible. Ultimately it doesn't matter if one design is superior, if it means a prohibitive extra work-load or adjacent headaches. That's why I wanted to let developers speak with authority on what makes sense in the scheme of things, and then as an adjacent designer I will do my best to try and thread the needle between dreams and patches.

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I think @talldan makes a great point in that using the interface package does not subtract from tweaking it in this instance to visually fit the requirements. I believe:

  • this PR should be reopened
  • the navgation editor (and the widgets editor) should make use of the interface package
  • UI tweaks for the specific instances should be on top of the interface package
  • the interface package should be updated if it has any wrong approaches on styling

It looks from the conversation above that there was some genuine confusion around implementation. @talldan 's explanation of what we gain from using interface is quite on the spot and I do believe through (as @jasmussen nicely put it) "dreams and patches" we can make the editors have the best UI for their usecases.

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