v14.0.0 Release Status - Beta Download #408
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I successfully installed this on 110a1 (Daily), and the menu appears (previous versions did not), so that bit works, but none of the functionality in the menus is working. Importing, exporting to pdf, text, html, etc. all prompt me through the dialogs, but then never actually export anything. So the UX is there, but underlying functionality still seems missing. |
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I've tried the newer versions, and it looks almost identical, but introduces a LOT of bugs and UX artifacts, which my production use of mail will not tolerate, so I'm locked at 110 via a deployed enterprise policy. The Supernova variants are seen as a significant regression in usability, so they're blocked at this point. Thanks for the update! |
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just to clarify, there is no thunderbird 115 compatible version of ImportExportTools NG, not even as a beta, right? |
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Note latest beta well tested on Windows partially on Linux, it's quite
solid except mbox exports due to a Thunderbird issue.
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just to clarify, there is no thunderbird 115 compatible version of
ImportExportTools NG, not even as a beta, right?
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https://github.com/thundernest/import-export-tools-ng/blob/v14.0.0/xpi/beta/import-export-tools-ng-14.0.0-b6-tb.xpi
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I've just installed
I've just installed this beta version in Thunderbird 115.1.1 Linux Mint and i'm going to test how it works. |
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I've just tested b6 and b7 and noticed an issue with the MBOX export (ignoring stability issues), with the way the first line of the emails are formatted: Expected format examples: addo-on output: Any chance to fix it to adopt GMAIL format (ideally, but Apple's one is also fine!)? Many thanks for the awesome work! |
May I ask where you found b7? |
There're all here: https://github.com/thundernest/import-export-tools-ng/tree/v14.0.0/xpi/beta |
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@alexeski Most importantly I wanted to beg for feedback, especially because I had to completely redo how mbox import and export are done. Basically I have to do both manually where the prior implementations pre 115 were copy in and copy out. So since you guys are mbox-ers your help, testing and feedback will be much appreciated. @alexeski First the separator format for mboxrd only requires a From and a space, all the other parts are optional. Right now I just had the sender, but I should be able to get the date, but I am also faced with certain api and performance challenges. The goal will be : All that said I am most concerned with reliability and compatibility. Performance is also in my mind as doing the mbox import by parsing AND doing From_ escaping properly is a lot of processing. Same for export. I have a set of small and large mboxes most my own and also Google takeout all of which work in and out. The last issue I ran into which is really my biggest concern is on the import side. The issue is the completion of the indexing after an import. I believe I got that finally yesterday, but that fix is right out the box yesterday. Sorry for the rambling and delay on b7, but you guys can help get over this which is the only thing holding up the release. So any feedback on stability or compatibility? Thanks both in advance. |
@cleidigh, first, thanks again for all your work! I've already commented on b7 in #409 (comment) ; unfortunately, it does not yet seem to work in my tb instance... |
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Testing on MacOS Monterey 12.6.5 with TB 115.2.0. import-export-tools-ng-14.0.0-b7a-tb.xpi I see 2 entries in the Tools menu for ImportExportTools NG. This is the first / only extension I've installed. 
Proceeded with creating a Local Folder and imported my target mbox file. Looks to be successful. Note: added xpi version... |
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@jtessier72 I will investigate if anyone has seen this amongst the other developers. Thanks! |
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All I've done so far is created a local folder and imported an mbox file. All looked to be successful. Should note that the 2 menus were there after installing the plugin and before I used it. Happy to do any checks you need. |
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@jtessier72 Two things you might try. First disable/enable and separately uninstall reinstall. |
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Thanks for adding the date to the 'From ' in b7a! One issue I noticed is I can't export to mbox as soon as I install the plugin,it doesn't run the code to show the file browser. I need to close the app and reopen to fix this. Also, any reason why mbox files don't come with .mbox extension,v is it possible to add? |
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Double menu remains after disable/enable and uninstall->quite->reinstall. |
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I am Arch Linux kernel 6.4.12 and Thunderbird 115.1.1. The option to import mbox files is missing. |
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Try to create a local folder, and then right click on the folder.
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I am Arch Linux kernel 6.4.12 and Thunderbird 115.1.1. The option to
import mbox files is missing.
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@peterainbow I am pretty certain this is probably a Thunderbird issue as the error is in the mime handler far below the extension. I would like some clarification though. Can you describe the sequence you did? The compact will only occur if there are deleted messages which wouldn't happen on a fresh import. As for help the biggest thing is testing. So far I am ready except for issues with search after mbox import. |
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Hi Christopher, I have been using Thunderbird 102 with your extension for some time. However, I am a Linux user, and Thunderbird doesn't provide an upgrade from 102 to 115 for Linux, so I had to make a fresh installation on all my Linux laptops. So, I have installed Thunderbird 115.2.2 from Snap on Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS. Then, I downloaded the XPI file for the ImportExportNG extension (v14.0.0-b8) and installed it from the file. I use my work Microsoft email account in this configuration, and I need the Owl for Exchange extension to make it work. If you need to make a fresh installation of Thunderbird, Owl for Exchange doesn't work if you import the Thunderbird profile. So, I usually export (mbox with structure) my historical files in the local folders with your extension for backup. In the event of a fresh installation (such as upgrading to Thunderbird 115), I import the emails I saved. I have imported all mbox files and individual mbox files, both with sbd structure, and it works perfectly. Afterwards, I exported mbox files structured with subfolders to check it worked, and I had no issues. Now I need to install Thunderbird 115 in Windows (fortunately, an automatic update), in another Ubuntu and Mint, with various email providers. I'll let you know if I need any help. On a separate note, let me know if you want me to run any specific tests. Thanks for sharing such a helpful extension. Regards, Celia |
It does work with tbkeys (https://github.com/wshanks/tbkeys) installed (setting is "s": "window.exportSelectedMsgs(0);", ), thank you a lot |
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@CeliaMuriel Yeah the linux install is a self help kind of thing. My Linux Mint VM is a hot mess to host multiple versions for testing! Do you do Profile export - import to ease installs? As a long time user, what do you think about the new ui refresh and the total menu redesign? I wanted a clean, consistent menu structure. Also do you have the button on your toolbar? |
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@jtessier72 |
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Hello, Thanks for working on the new release to support the latest version of Thunderbird. I tried to import the latest version of the beta and I am getting an error stating that the add-on could not be installed because it appears to be corrupt. :/ |
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Will try to have a look at this soon. I have not used any other addons. This was a fresh install of TB so I could get a copy of an expiring email acct. |
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@jtessier72 |
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I might say, I'm experimenting with than using b8 with TB 115.2.3 on Win11 22H2. 1695498849735 addons.xpi WARN Checking C:\Program Files\Mozilla Thunderbird\distribution\extensions for addons If this may help. Forgive me for the lag. |
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@DC1961-1
I do have the menus well documented in help and localized Let me know if you have any other questions... |
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Thx a lot for the push :| |
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Just downloaded this beta-version, export then import an mbox: it's look works fine. |
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Hi,
helped a friend on the same system Thunderbird 115.3.1 (64 bits), Mac OS
10.13 with beta v8: all works fine (around 350 MB size).
Thank you
Mike
Armand68 wrote on 02.10.2023 at 14:55:
… Just downloaded this beta-version, export then import an mbox: it's look
works fine.
Thunderbird 115.3.1 (64 bits), Mac OS 10.13
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Hi,
no import, just export, did not notice double mene entry. m
Christopher Leidigh wrote on 02.10.2023 at 22:16:
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Great another user!
Two quick questions
Was the 350MB some type of import?
Since the user is on Mac did they see a double menu entry, have a couple
of reports on Mac for this. Has to be a Thunderbird issue.
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I also see the double menu entry. |
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@cleidigh, sorry for my late response. I had installed but not configured any email account on my Mint laptop, so I only removed the old Thunderbird version, installed Thunderbird 115 and the extensions (including yours), and configured one email account. I get timeout errors whenever I try to add more emails. I assume it is because my laptop is tiny and takes too long to do anything. As for my other Ubuntu laptop, I opened it to upgrade to Thunderbird 115 just an hour ago. I intended to export the profile and then import it after the upgrade. My first step was to upgrade the laptop's software before getting started. Funny enough, Thunderbird also upgraded automatically to 115, and I didn't need to do all the hassle. Your extension is now 14.0.0, without needing to do anything (just the automatic upgrade). As for the UI, I got a bit confused at first, but then I got used to it quickly. As for the button in the toolbar, I have it, but I don't use it. I like the mbox import/export. I don't see this option in the button's drop-down menu, and I want to ensure I export my emails with structure and with the subfolders. |
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I installed the v14.0.0 release this week in Thunderbird 115.3.2, to merge a mail-history that goes back over 20 years into my current system. The old system was running the then-current Thunderbird-version in July of this year when the systemboard failed on me. Because the old system was unavailable, but I had a recent backup, I copied over the old profile to my current system, and used the Profile Switcher add-on to switch to the old profile, use the Import Export Tools NG to do the export(s), and then switch back again to the new profile and do the import(s). All mails in the old profile were in "read" state. I noticed a coupled of "interesting" things relating to large and ancient mailboxes, using the structured export. During export : After import :
I still could merge my history, but it required doing exports of smaill batches, sometimes just one sub-folder, taking a couple of days and requiring a lot of manual intervention. So I'm still moderately happy because my configuration is nearing completion. |
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@mvdejong Please let me know if you can do this debugging with me. |
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For those who use these comments to verify if the tool is safe to use I can assure You that is is a great piece of software, which still does need some work, but can be used today with some precautions. I used it to succesfully migrate a configuration with hundreds of (sub)folders and tens of thousands of mails. I have researched the problem of the incomplete structured exports, and have been able to trace it back to the presence in the (sub)folder name of one the 9 characters that are forbidden in Windows filenames : double quotes, asterisk, forward slash, less than, greater than, backslash, vertical bar, question-mark and colon :
If You verify that the names of Your (sub)|folders do not contain those 9 characters, exports will work as expected. |
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@mvdejong I would very much like to get your major export to work flawlessly. |
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I have just tested the Backup option. I 💘 it. Brilliant, @cleidigh 👏👏👏 However, I found a few differences between the source (.thunderbird/a37pmm10.default-release/) and the copy (Vanilla/Thunderbird\ profile/a37pmm10.default-release-20231020-1742/). There may be OK. You have the detail below in case it helps: Only in Vanilla/Thunderbird profile/a37pmm10.default-release-20231020-1742/: Backup.log I have connected an Microsoft account, and I enabled the Teams bit in Thunderbird, even though I don't use it. You can skip everything that says Teams and Sharepoint. As for the YouTube bit, I don't use it and I don't have a clue what it is doing there. |
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v14.0.0 has finally been released!!
See beta status for v14.0.1
#466
I would like to give everyone a big thank you for your help with this major effort.
Please download the release from the addon tab or the website.
I already have a set of items I missed or messed up. I have patches that will appear in beta shortly.
Christopher
Status:
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b3
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-fix missing translations
b7
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