diff --git a/crates/kernel/src/builtins/bf_objects.rs b/crates/kernel/src/builtins/bf_objects.rs
index d89063f4..78b91b60 100644
--- a/crates/kernel/src/builtins/bf_objects.rs
+++ b/crates/kernel/src/builtins/bf_objects.rs
@@ -199,6 +199,16 @@ fn bf_recycle(bf_args: &mut BfCallState<'_>) -> Result<BfRet, BfErr> {
         return Err(BfErr::Code(E_TYPE));
     };
 
+    let valid = bf_args.world_state.valid(*obj);
+    if valid == Ok(false)
+        || valid
+            .err()
+            .map(|e| e.database_error_msg() == Some("NotFound"))
+            .unwrap_or_default()
+    {
+        return Err(BfErr::Code(E_INVARG));
+    }
+
     // Check if the given task perms can control the object before continuing.
     if !bf_args
         .world_state
diff --git a/crates/kernel/src/builtins/bf_properties.rs b/crates/kernel/src/builtins/bf_properties.rs
index 5531ab76..5c6666e9 100644
--- a/crates/kernel/src/builtins/bf_properties.rs
+++ b/crates/kernel/src/builtins/bf_properties.rs
@@ -204,7 +204,7 @@ fn bf_add_property(bf_args: &mut BfCallState<'_>) -> Result<BfRet, BfErr> {
             *location,
             *location,
             name.as_str(),
-            bf_args.caller_perms(),
+            attrs.owner.unwrap(),
             attrs.flags.unwrap(),
             Some(value),
         )
diff --git a/crates/kernel/testsuite/moot/create.moot b/crates/kernel/testsuite/moot/create.moot
index 245d7571..96618d89 100644
--- a/crates/kernel/testsuite/moot/create.moot
+++ b/crates/kernel/testsuite/moot/create.moot
@@ -88,4 +88,9 @@ OBJ
 0
 ; create($tmp2);
 ; return $tmp2.initialize_called;
-1
\ No newline at end of file
+1
+
+// Test that the default owner is the caller
+@programmer
+; return create($nothing).owner;
+#4
\ No newline at end of file
diff --git a/crates/kernel/testsuite/moot/recycle.moot b/crates/kernel/testsuite/moot/recycle.moot
index 9c645a2f..c19ff4bf 100644
--- a/crates/kernel/testsuite/moot/recycle.moot
+++ b/crates/kernel/testsuite/moot/recycle.moot
@@ -70,6 +70,7 @@ E_PERM
 >    "$object.recycle_called = $object.recycle_called + 1;"
 > });
 ; return $object.recycle_called;
+0
 
 // test_that_calling_recycle_on_a_recycled_object_fails
 @programmer
diff --git a/crates/kernel/testsuite/moot_suite.rs b/crates/kernel/testsuite/moot_suite.rs
index c2e9eb82..aa601830 100644
--- a/crates/kernel/testsuite/moot_suite.rs
+++ b/crates/kernel/testsuite/moot_suite.rs
@@ -56,21 +56,26 @@ impl MootRunner for SchedulerMootRunner {
     type Error = SchedulerError;
 
     fn eval<S: Into<String>>(&mut self, player: Objid, command: S) -> Result<Var, SchedulerError> {
+        let command = command.into();
+        eprintln!("{player} >> ; {command}");
         scheduler_test_utils::call_eval(
             self.scheduler.clone(),
             self.session.clone(),
             player,
-            command.into(),
+            command,
         )
+        .inspect(|var| eprintln!("{player} << {var}"))
     }
 
     fn command<S: AsRef<str>>(&mut self, player: Objid, command: S) -> Result<Var, SchedulerError> {
+        eprintln!("{player} >> ; {}", command.as_ref());
         scheduler_test_utils::call_command(
             self.scheduler.clone(),
             self.session.clone(),
             player,
             command.as_ref(),
         )
+        .inspect(|var| eprintln!("{player} << {var}"))
     }
 
     fn none(&self) -> Var {
diff --git a/crates/values/src/model/mod.rs b/crates/values/src/model/mod.rs
index 25cd2336..05308f3b 100644
--- a/crates/values/src/model/mod.rs
+++ b/crates/values/src/model/mod.rs
@@ -126,6 +126,14 @@ impl WorldStateError {
             }
         }
     }
+
+    pub fn database_error_msg(&self) -> Option<&str> {
+        if let Self::DatabaseError(msg) = self {
+            Some(msg)
+        } else {
+            None
+        }
+    }
 }
 
 pub trait ValSet<V: AsByteBuffer>: FromIterator<V> {