AWS? #1921

ajmetz · 2022-02-28T21:14:34Z

ajmetz
Feb 28, 2022

Any tried and tested ways to run Mojolicious Webapps via Amazon Web Services, people here have experience with?

Never used AWS and suggested a Mojolicious project for an innovation week / hackathon at work, and a team was assembled, and on day one researched if using Amazon Web Services was viable. I'll hear the results of day one's research at the start of day two, =). Just wondered if this community had any two cents to offer?

kraih · 2022-02-28T22:19:09Z

kraih
Feb 28, 2022
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Nothing special about running Mojolicious on EC2.

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ajmetz Feb 28, 2022
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Thanks for the super quick response! =).
A quick google and I ended up here: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/EC2_GetStarted.html
I'd heard of different methods - Mojolicious in a docker container, Mojolicious in a linux instance, and Mojolicious on a serverless server via Lambda. Looking up EC2, I'm guessing it's similar to a Cloud VPS (I currently have a Cloud VPS via Neostrada / TotaalCloud with Ubuntu 21.10, Nginx and Perlbrew - would EC2 be the AWS equivalent then?).

s1037989 · 2022-02-28T22:34:37Z

s1037989
Feb 28, 2022

Agreed. Nothing special. Spin up an EC2 instance and run your Mojo app like normal. Open 80/443 in your AWS VPC Network ACLs and Security Groups. Ignore all the fancy AWS products -- all you need is EC2 (or Lightsail). Containers, S3, Route 53, databases... all fine, but not necessary. You may grow your app to that, but do not start with such complicated architecture for a hackathon.

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s1037989 · 2022-02-28T23:02:53Z

s1037989
Feb 28, 2022

That is correct. EC2 = VPS = VM. When you spin up an Ubuntu EC2, it'll be a VM like any other. Yes, Mojolicious in Docker and Lambda are all fine and dandy, but that's for scale. Don't waste your precious hackathon time on infrastructure architecture where you want to focus on your app. Install a Postgres database into your EC2 using `apt install` like anything else; I'd even configure postgres to "trust" and not worry about authenticating to it. Spin up an nginx application router if you really need one for your app, otherwise just have Mojolicious listen on 80/443 directly. Perlbrew is great, but certainly not necessary. Just use system perl and install modules to system perl as root. You might want to use Perlbrew to use the latest greatest Perl, tho. Of course, some of this is bad advice for proper deployments... but you're hacking. Focus on your app and have fun! :)

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On Mon, Feb 28, 2022 at 4:42 PM ajmetz ***@***.***> wrote: Thanks for the super quick response! =). A quick google and I ended up here: https://docs.aws.amazon.com/AWSEC2/latest/UserGuide/EC2_GetStarted.html I'd heard of different methods - Mojolicious in a docker container, Mojolicious in a linux instance, and Mojolicious on a serverless server via Lambda. Looking up EC2, I'm guessing it's similar to a Cloud VPS (I currently have a Cloud VPS via Neostrada / TotaalCloud with Ubuntu 21.10, Nginx and Perlbrew - would EC2 be the AWS equivalent then?). — Reply to this email directly, view it on GitHub <#1921 (reply in thread)>, or unsubscribe <https://github.com/notifications/unsubscribe-auth/AAD6K6XUARPXGV27KKCJH5TU5P237ANCNFSM5PSGGDQA> . Triage notifications on the go with GitHub Mobile for iOS <https://apps.apple.com/app/apple-store/id1477376905?ct=notification-email&mt=8&pt=524675> or Android <https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.github.android&referrer=utm_campaign%3Dnotification-email%26utm_medium%3Demail%26utm_source%3Dgithub>. You are receiving this because you commented.Message ID: ***@***.***>

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hbarnard · 2022-03-28T07:51:01Z

hbarnard
Mar 28, 2022

[root@ip-172-30-0-27 cclite2.0.1-7-centos]# curl -L https://cpanmin.us | perl - -M https://cpan.metacpan.org -n Mojolicious
  % Total    % Received % Xferd  Average Speed   Time    Time     Time  Current
                                 Dload  Upload   Total   Spent    Left  Speed
100  295k  100  295k    0     0  1275k      0 --:--:-- --:--:-- --:--:-- 1279k
Mojolicious is up to date. (9.23)
[root@ip-172-30-0-27 cclite2.0.1-7-centos]# morbo
bash: morbo: command not found
[root@ip-172-30-0-27 cclite2.0.1-7-centos]# hypnotoad
bash: hypnotoad: command not found

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Part of the EC2 experience. I'm testing https://sourceforge.net/projects/cclite2/ on EC2, no problem for Ubuntu, but Centos seems problematic. I'm not using containers etc. the whole thing will run on a dedicated system later.

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daleif Mar 28, 2022

Isn't roots PATH always rather limited? So it depends on where the bins ended up being installed after the installation.

hbarnard · 2022-03-28T08:41:57Z

hbarnard
Mar 28, 2022

Hi Lars, Yes, thanks. I've tried either way, root and non-root. What I want is 'easy' (I have a large install script) for non-expert. I do that with a deb for Ubuntu, Debian etc. I'll carry on investigating. The other thing is that there's less 'Perl' on Centos AWS, I have a lot of extra yum commands. Best Hugh

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ajmetz Mar 28, 2022
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cpanm -V shows a lot of the different paths, and you can check everything is installing to the correct place. That said, I only ever use Perlbrew for the most part. One day I ought to try plenv of course, ^_^.

daleif Mar 28, 2022

DId you search for it? Just to see where morbo and hypnotaod went? (I offen use locate morbo)

hbarnard · 2022-03-28T15:36:48Z

hbarnard
Mar 28, 2022

Hi Lars Thanks, I didn't and I've backed off now. Tried 'which' and it didn't find it. Really annoying because it's now almost seamless on Ubuntu. I'll take another run in a day or two and write about it again. All the best Hugh

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daleif Mar 29, 2022

which just tells you it isn't in the PATH, you already knew that. That's why I suggested using locate instead. It searches a database of all the files on disk (updated via sudo updatedb) and thus can find programmes not in the PATH. Very useful.

hbarnard · 2022-10-11T09:11:58Z

hbarnard
Oct 11, 2022

AWS centos is /usr/local/bin/morbo and, of course hypnotoad...thanks to everyone for suggestions.

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