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Ability to not use nuro device at all #2

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vbjpred opened this issue Dec 21, 2020 · 266 comments
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Ability to not use nuro device at all #2

vbjpred opened this issue Dec 21, 2020 · 266 comments
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@vbjpred
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vbjpred commented Dec 21, 2020

Hi, I have unifi nano g GPON device lying around. If I used serial hack to change serial/mac would nuro work with it?
Do you know what kind of protections does Nuro have to identify if it's correct device.
If it's just serial and mac then I should be ok?
I dont want to get nuro and then find out that I can not use my own router, but NTT vdsl speeds are getting worse, so I am on fence to go nuro again...

Thank you again for your work on this, it's really sour experience when talking with nuro support, they take you for a fool.

@meh301
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meh301 commented Jan 4, 2021

My GPON module arrived DOA so I cannot test. Having looked into the security, the SLID authentication seemed to only be the serial of the device inputted as a password, all other authentication fields were left blank (or automatically deleted by OLT configuration). Theoretically, if the point in italics is a non-issue, then spoofing the serial, mac, and using the serial as authentication password should work, but I cannot confirm 100%. Also in Japan, the act of spoofing the serial and mac address would be considered illegal so I am not going to say anything more.

@tinysun
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tinysun commented Jul 20, 2022

I have a ma5671a(with openwrt ware) I can change Gpon-sn loid loid-password and password or mac add,and I know old onu‘s Gpon-sn so-net-sn and mac add.how can i do?some advice?

@tinysun
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tinysun commented Feb 22, 2023

日本运营商 nuro 用户来了,2G 下行套餐用这个正合适,说下折腾的要点。
首先 nuro 2G 用的正是 GPON,从 HG8045Q 的超级用户设置里就能发现它只需 SN 认证(也许还需要伪装 SN MAC),WAN 口设置 VLAN10 之后就可以 DHCP/DHCPv6-PD 获得地址(块),还可以通过桥接 WAN 口多蹭两三个 v4 地址。
不知道中兴 F660A 是不是和华为一样背面写的 PON SN 是 16 位的,格式为: 8 位十进制数+8 位十六进制数(如 48575443DEADBEEF)。
这个 16 位不能照原样写进猫棒设置里,而是需要参照 https://www.odbook.com/1170.html 把前八位变回四位字母,后八位不变,即变成 HWTCDEADBEEF. 这样便可以 O5

@tinysun
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tinysun commented Mar 22, 2023

A user from the Japanese operator nuro is here, and this is just the right thing for a 2G downstream package. First of all, nuro 2G uses GPON, as can be seen from the super user settings of HG8045Q, which only requires SN authentication (maybe also needs to disguise SN MAC). After setting the WAN port to VLAN10, it can obtain addresses (blocks) through DHCP/DHCPv6-PD, and can also bridge the WAN port to borrow two or three more v4 addresses. I don't know if the ZTE F660A is the same as Huawei, and the PON SN written on the back is 16 digits, formatted as: 8 decimal digits + 8 hexadecimal digits (such as 48575443DEADBEEF). This 16 digits cannot be written into the modem settings as is, but needs to be converted according to https://www.odbook.com/1170.html to turn the first eight digits back into four letters, and keep the last eight digits unchanged, i.e. it becomes HWTCDEADBEEF. This way, O5k authentication can be passed and internet access can be obtained.

Next, you need to choose a modem stick that supports GPON OLT mode and supports the HWTCDEADBEEF format for the PON SN.

@bi119aTe5hXk
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SGP200W user here.
Tested at MA5671A and ODI DFP-34X-2C2.
Fake SN & LOID and PLOAM password is required. These information can be found at ISP router (SGP200W) admin page.
LOID is the PRODUCT ID. Copy MAC address is not required.
PLOAM Password is the SN with hex (SYNC = 53 59 4E 43).
And the SN is the SN without hex.
Screen Shot 2023-03-24 at 14 24 18 copy
Also, you'll need to set VLAN to 10.
After restart, the ONU module will be in O5, but still no internet. Change your router WAN settings from static IP to DHCP will get a public IP address and get internet connection.

If you are using MA5671A or Nokia G-010S-P, be careful of the SC connecter, NURO router uses sc/UPC and MA5671A/G-010S-P uses sc/APC, fiber endface is different. If your Rx power is less than -25dBm, try using sc/UPC to sc/APC converter or cable. ODI‘s module uses sc/UPC so no conversation technology is required.


我这里是SGP200W,算是NURO给的最新款路由?
测试了可以使用华为的MA5671A和ODI的DFP-34X-2C2这两款猫棒。
基本上来说NURO只判断SN,LOID和PLOAM密码。并不验证MAC地址。
验证信息可以在路由器的设置页面找到,如上图所示PRODUCT ID是LOID,十六进制化的SN是PLOAM密码,SN直接就是SN(我这里是SYNC开头)
VLAN也是设置成10
应用并重启后即可拿到O5认证状态,不过此时仍然无法直接连接互联网,需要将路由器的连接猫棒的SFP口改成DHCP即可获取到公网IP。IPv6也没问题可以正常下发和使用。

不过目前我这边测速只有1G,没有宣称的2G,不太确定问题出在哪🤔

查了下GPON技术基本上都大同小异,只要能改LOID/SN/PLOAM不管哪款GPON猫棒基本都可以使用。
另外华为MA5671A和诺基亚G-010S-P兼容的是sc/APC插头,而NURO给的路由器用的是sc/UPC,直接用会有损耗还可能损坏激光头,所以建议使用转接头或者转接线。特别是接收信号小于-25dBm的话。
ODI的产品据说默认就是sc/UPC所以不需要转换可以直接插。缺点就是不支持改MAC地址(虽然目前也不需要修改)。

@tinysun
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tinysun commented Apr 5, 2023

之后我使用了ma5671a只需要更改gpon,需要把原来给的16位转换为12位,这样就可以直接连上了,而且重启后直接是O5.其他任何选项都不需要更改。由于我这边没有签约流媒体和电话,所以vlan也不需要设置。直接dhcpv4v6就行。不需要LOID以及mac地址认证。我现在在测试中,还算稳定。但是我发现gpon的信息里有3个vlan,分别是10,20,110。10应该是走网络的,20和110应该分别走流媒体和电话。由于没签约,所以现在还没测试。如果有进展我会跟进的。

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我这边是forマンション,实际测试如果只改SN的话是会停在O3,进不到O5。
然后ODI那个模块直接就是LOID必填😂,所以不得已把能找到的相关信息填上去试了一下结果就O5了。一直以为必须得拿到superadmin才能获取到LOID之类的信息,看起来并不是。MAC地址伪装也不需要。

VLAN这个我是直接在猫棒设置了10,没有测试别的选项,理论上这个可以不在猫棒上设置而下发给路由器在路由器上管理VLAN,具体的没测试也就不清楚了。
另外我也是只签约了网络,没有附加电话之类其他选项,多VLAN我这边也用不上

至少目前解决了以前二级路由后IPv6无法正常使用的问题,已经非常满足了。
2.5G能不能上其实意义确实不大,毕竟我的大部分设备都不支持1G以上的网络,平时也很少跑满1G带宽🤔

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tinysun commented Apr 6, 2023

我这边也是forマンション,最开始给了我一个zte的,后来花了5000换了一个sony的,现在基本就只认证gpon sn了。有还在网上拍了一个旧款的hw的改了用superadmin改了一下gponsn 马上连上了,可是下一秒自动升级后就悲剧了,再也开不开superadmin了,现在就是个摆设了。最近准备拆机ttl呢。你可以试试找个理由让他给你换个路由器 然后就应该只需要认证gpon sn了吧。很多人的方法都不太一样。看来nuro的水很深啊。

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换设备没必要,官方设备默认会开启ACS,会通过TR-069协议自动获取配置文件修改本地设置,管理密码也会跟着修改,据说现在超级管理员密码是跟着时间走的所以几乎无法破解,不知道nuro是不是也是采用同样的方法。从第三方购买类似官方的设备的话最好先禁用TR-069再连上网。
加5000换机那个我看网上攻略了,换的机器应该是支持10G的,有自带10G口。不过不申请10G网络的话还是只有2G可用。不过对于我来说最主要的是官方的机器都不支持二级路由特别是IPv6,对于想完全掌控网络设备的用户非常不友好。

至于跑不到2G应该是我路由器的问题,我用的是Ubiquiti的UDM-SE,SFP+口只支持1G或10G,中间的2.5G和5G不支持😂。目前考虑买个SFP+转RJ45的光电转换盒来跑满2G。日本这些东西都奇缺,猫棒和这些转换盒10G网卡都非常难买,必须都得从海外进口🤣

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tinysun commented Apr 6, 2023

hw和zte是走的acs的,sony这个设备直接走的dhcp,所以这个配置很简单。forマンション加5000换的是2.5g的。
另外二级路由器是不能进行ipv6分发的,因为一个用户只给一个前缀在一级路由上已经使用了,一般是采用穿透解决ipv6问题的,我用openwrt脚本配置的。
#############
####### Put your custom commands here that should be executed once
####### the system init finished. By default this file does nothing.

####### ipv6 setting passthrough START
sleep 10
interface=eth1
ebtables -t broute -A BROUTING -p ! ipv6 -j DROP -i $interface
brctl addif br-lan $interface
####### ipv6 setting END

exit 0
#############

ubiquiti应该也会有类似的命令行能解决。可以尝试一下。
这样解决的优点可以解决ipv6分发问题。
缺点是由于ipv6是一级路由分发的,所以二级路有是没办法解决本地域名解析的(ipv6优先dns啥的,所有解析基本v6都解决了)。导致的结果就是如果内外网有不一样的dns解析时会出问题(v6解析结果优先)。
v4可以控制,v6由一级路由控制。想控制所有网络还是有些难度的,在客户端不能自动获取dns需要手动指定二级路由才行。
您可以尝试一下。

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SGP200W显示也是DHCP获取,但是有TR-069,VLAN也是通过TR-069控制的,所以如果有购买电话之类的服务的话应该是通过TR-069获取VLAN ID再进行配置。

关于IPv6,我这边测试是IPv6地址可以正常获取(240d开头),但是无法正常联网使用IPv6,各ipv6测试站点显示仍然还是IPv4连接。之前用的Mikrotok路由无论是DHCPv6还是relay都试过不行,换了unifi也是一样。像是NURO的路由器里的防火墙有做限制。
更换猫棒之后就能正常获取IPv6地址以及v6的连接了。有条件的话确实猫棒要比NURO给的设备好用一些

@tinysun
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tinysun commented Apr 6, 2023

DHCPv6和relay是肯定不行的,需要パススルーpassthrough 类似于桥接。

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是的,那样的话IPv4也会被桥接
我的路由都不支持仅桥接v6而NAT v4,我想保留v4是NAT所以v6就一直没成功🤷‍♂️
基本上就是要么全部交给NURO的一级路由进行管理,要么就是破解之后用自己的路由,很明显后者会比较好,只要NURO不封锁用第三方路由/猫棒(

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tinysun commented Apr 6, 2023

如果不能用命令行仅让v6桥接基本就只有第二种方法了。

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是可以的嗎? 想買個有2.5G LAN 的路由

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tinysun commented Apr 24, 2023

需要测试,切勿着急,没个线路可能都不一样。

@Alex-Orsholits Alex-Orsholits added the good first issue Good for newcomers label Apr 25, 2023
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tinysun commented Jun 29, 2023

https://minami.me/diary/485#step-8
好像已经有人用ndppd的方法解决了NURO自身路由器的v6问题,我正在研究中,大家有突破互通一下。

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tinysun commented Jul 5, 2023

WAN6=eth0.2
LAN=br-lan
ip6tables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $WAN6 -j MASQUERADE
ip6tables -A FORWARD -m conntrack --ctstate RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT

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sony的那个2.5g的路由 的 SN,LOID和PLOAM 都分别是哪些啊?...完全不知道怎么着手了

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tinysun commented Nov 27, 2023

sony的那个2.5g的路由 的 SN,LOID和PLOAM 都分别是哪些啊?...完全不知道怎么着手了

sony上有个贴纸 gponsn把16位数改成12位就行了。LOID和PLOAM都空着就行。

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JediBUZ commented Nov 27, 2023

Which GPON module would you recommend to use?

どの GPON モジュールを使用することをお勧めしますか?

2GB

@tinysun
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tinysun commented Nov 27, 2023

Which GPON module would you recommend to use?

どの GPON モジュールを使用することをお勧めしますか?

2GB

自分はHUAWEIのMA5671A使用しています。
アルカテル・ルーセントのG-010S-PやNokiaのG-010S-Aなどもできそうです。
すなわちどちらも専用OPENWRTのFWを入れる必要があります。

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SGP200W显示也是DHCP获取,但是有TR-069,VLAN也是通过TR-069控制的,所以如果有购买电话之类的服务的话应该是通过TR-069获取VLAN ID再进行配置。

关于IPv6,我这边测试是IPv6地址可以正常获取(240d开头),但是无法正常联网使用IPv6,各ipv6测试站点显示仍然还是IPv4连接。之前用的Mikrotok路由无论是DHCPv6还是relay都试过不行,换了unifi也是一样。像是NURO的路由器里的防火墙有做限制。 更换猫棒之后就能正常获取IPv6地址以及v6的连接了。有条件的话确实猫棒要比NURO给的设备好用一些

我用的也是udm,想问下 您是如何设置的才拿到了IPv6的地址的呀?
Prefix Delegation Size 我一直没搞明白该设置为多少

@tinysun
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tinysun commented Nov 28, 2023

SGP200W显示也是DHCP获取,但是有TR-069,VLAN也是通过TR-069控制的,所以如果有购买电话之类的服务的话应该是通过TR-069获取VLAN ID再进行配置。
关于IPv6,我这边测试是IPv6地址可以正常获取(240d开头),但是无法正常联网使用IPv6,各ipv6测试站点显示仍然还是IPv4连接。之前用的Mikrotok路由无论是DHCPv6还是relay都试过不行,换了unifi也是一样。像是NURO的路由器里的防火墙有做限制。 更换猫棒之后就能正常获取IPv6地址以及v6的连接了。有条件的话确实猫棒要比NURO给的设备好用一些

我用的也是udm,想问下 您是如何设置的才拿到了IPv6的地址的呀? Prefix Delegation Size 我一直没搞明白该设置为多少

openwrt 需要23.xx版本以上才行,直接自动获取就行,不需要设置prefix

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SGP200W显示也是DHCP获取,但是有TR-069,VLAN也是通过TR-069控制的,所以如果有购买电话之类的服务的话应该是通过TR-069获取VLAN ID再进行配置。
关于IPv6,我这边测试是IPv6地址可以正常获取(240d开头),但是无法正常联网使用IPv6,各ipv6测试站点显示仍然还是IPv4连接。之前用的Mikrotok路由无论是DHCPv6还是relay都试过不行,换了unifi也是一样。像是NURO的路由器里的防火墙有做限制。 更换猫棒之后就能正常获取IPv6地址以及v6的连接了。有条件的话确实猫棒要比NURO给的设备好用一些

我用的也是udm,想问下 您是如何设置的才拿到了IPv6的地址的呀? Prefix Delegation Size 我一直没搞明白该设置为多少

我UDM的设置:
Internet中
IPv6 Connection为DHCPv6
Prefix Delegation Size为56

Networks中
Interface Type为Prefix Delegation
Client Address Assignment为SLAAC
其余设定默认即可

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tinysun commented Nov 28, 2023

SGP200W显示也是DHCP获取,但是有TR-069,VLAN也是通过TR-069控制的,所以如果有购买电话之类的服务的话应该是通过TR-069获取VLAN ID再进行配置。
关于IPv6,我这边测试是IPv6地址可以正常获取(240d开头),但是无法正常联网使用IPv6,各ipv6测试站点显示仍然还是IPv4连接。之前用的Mikrotok路由无论是DHCPv6还是relay都试过不行,换了unifi也是一样。像是NURO的路由器里的防火墙有做限制。 更换猫棒之后就能正常获取IPv6地址以及v6的连接了。有条件的话确实猫棒要比NURO给的设备好用一些

我用的也是udm,想问下 您是如何设置的才拿到了IPv6的地址的呀? Prefix Delegation Size 我一直没搞明白该设置为多少

我UDM的设置: Internet中 IPv6 Connection为DHCPv6 Prefix Delegation Size为56

Networks中 Interface Type为Prefix Delegation Client Address Assignment为SLAAC 其余设定默认即可

对Ubiquiti的设备不是很熟悉,但是我觉得应该是系统问题,之前我在openwrt22上也没调通。建议直接桥接v6.
linux的命令如下
WAN6=eth0.2
LAN=br-lan
ip6tables -t nat -A POSTROUTING -o $WAN6 -j MASQUERADE
ip6tables -A FORWARD -m conntrack --ctstate RELATED,ESTABLISHED -j ACCEPT
请根据您的系统适当做修改。

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tinysun commented Nov 28, 2023

Ubiquiti

configure
set firewall ipv6-name WAN6_OUT rule 10 action 'masquerade'
set firewall ipv6-name WAN6_OUT rule 10 description 'IPv6 Masquerade'
set interfaces ethernet eth0 vif 2 firewall in ipv6-name WAN6_OUT
set firewall ipv6-name LAN_IN rule 10 action 'accept'
set firewall ipv6-name LAN_IN rule 10 description 'Allow established/related'
set firewall ipv6-name LAN_IN rule 10 state established 'enable'
set firewall ipv6-name LAN_IN rule 10 state related 'enable'
set interfaces switch switch0 firewall in ipv6-name LAN_IN
commit
save
exit

这个您做个参考,再根据您的设备端口调整一下就应该可以了。

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btcdtc commented Dec 30, 2023

老nuro用户 手里有华为和odi猫棒,最近搬家换了新契约。

之前的契约两个猫棒按上述设置方法填入vlan10,sn等都没问题,但是新契约里按同样设置两个猫棒都显示O5 但是dhcp拿不到ip,偶尔有ip但是无法ping同外网。
目前看华为猫棒汇报vlan11 是pptp ethernet uni,想问下这意味着猫棒pvid需要设置vlan11吗。
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tinysun commented Dec 30, 2023

我暂时不是很清楚 不知道其他大神有没有过相关经历

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hldh214 commented Sep 5, 2024

My MAP-E is pretty stable on OpenWRT but I'm still finding if it work on other router OS. Does anyone successful make it work on other OS?

  • freeBSD supported MAP-E but *sense still didn't implement it so I think it not doable
  • Look like it can do on Unifi OS and Mikrotik router OS but seem very complicated. I don't have any unifi or mikrotik device here to test, Router OS can be install on x86 for testing but need a license (?)
  • Sophos or Fortinet, Yamaha: Look like fortinet and yamaha support MAP-E but I don't have any device...

AFAIK, unless you can confirm that those routers can be manually configured for parameters like ip6prefix as with OpenWRT, I don't believe they will work with NURO.

I once consulted with a QNAP engineer regarding their Qhora-301W router's official firmware, as I saw in the product description that it claimed to support map-e. However, their engineer informed me that it does not support custom configurations for these parameters, leading me to conclude that it cannot support NURO's implementation of map-e. Personally, I speculate that their claim of map-e support may specifically refer to the configurations from JPIX, which are hardcoded into the device.

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After using the MA5671A for some time, today I received a warning notice from onu and was told that this was a violation of their usage agreement.
I'm not sure if anyone else is experiencing the same thing, I am using a dhcp connection that has been disguised.

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JediBUZ commented Sep 25, 2024

When I receive this letter I shall start looking at other providers. I won't be reconnecting my Sony ONU ever.

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bi119aTe5hXk commented Sep 25, 2024

我也收到了NURO的警告信😭
看起来他们为了推MAP-E使用TR069下发配置失败所以给所有使用第三方ONU的用户都发了书面邮件
如果要继续用NURO网络的话就必须先换回官方设备,至于他们更新配置以后还能不能换回第三方设备就不清楚了,大概率是不行(如果是MAP-E用户用第三方ONU没有收到信的话说不定还能继续使用第三方设备🤔)
好消息是他们修复了IPv6下发无法正常使用的问题
坏消息是2G网络只剩1G可以使用

I also got the warning letter from NURO 😭
Seems they failed to push MAP-E configuration via TR069, so they sent warning letter to all users using 3rd party ONUs.
If you still want to use the NURO network you have to using the official device, not clear is possible to still using third-party device after they update the configuration (if MAP-E user with a third-party ONU did not receive the warning letter then maybe third-party device still possible 🤔)
Good news is that they fixed the issue of IPv6 not working properly
Bad news is that 2G network will downgrade to 1G

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EYW-015 commented Sep 25, 2024

你收到警告的时候是 map-e 模式吗?还是说在用 DHCP 双栈?
你有没有改 猫棒 和 Openwrt 路由器 WAN口 的 MAC 地址?
换成官方设备之后就自动更新成 MAP-E 模式了吗?
我是新装的nuro,默认就是map-e,刚用两个星期。暂时未收到警告信
有其他人在 MAP-E 模式下收到警告吗?

When you receive the warning, do you using MAP-E mode or still using DHCP Dual stack?
And did you changed the MAC address of PON Stick and Openwrt Router WAN?
Did it automatically update to MAP-E mode after switching to official device?
I'm new user of NURO. It's been MAP-E since the beginning
I've just been using it for two weeks. No warning letters for now.
Dose other people receive warning in MAP-E mode?

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我用的是MA5671A,一直是双栈,有做MAC/LOID等伪装,但是TR069是伪装不了的(毕竟TR069本身就是用来远程下发配置的功能)
目前看了一下ONU固件更新后出现了MAP-E但是提示未设定,估计暂时还没下发MAP-E配置
刚拿到警告信就马上去换设备了没仔细看😂,上面有写如果期限内未检测到官方设备,或者以后再检测到第三方设备的话就会直接解除合约,所以如果要继续使用的话就还是别冒这个风险了
不过快到合约期的用户确实可以考虑更换ISP了

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EYW-015 commented Sep 25, 2024

@bi119aTe5hXk
我这是房东提供的免费网络,今年新装的,一开始就是mape模式,只不过之前设备一直连不通,这个月中旬才成功连上,刚用两星期,我再用一段时间看看,如果收到警告信的话我也准备换网

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btcdtc commented Sep 25, 2024

看了一下目前支持dual stack的只有au了,au也要求必须用官方设备。

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你收到警告的时候是 map-e 模式吗?还是说在用 DHCP 双栈? 你有没有改 猫棒 和 Openwrt 路由器 WAN口 的 MAC 地址? 换成官方设备之后就自动更新成 MAP-E 模式了吗? 我是新装的nuro,默认就是map-e,刚用两个星期。暂时未收到警告信 有其他人在 MAP-E 模式下收到警告吗?

When you receive the warning, do you using MAP-E mode or still using DHCP Dual stack? And did you changed the MAC address of PON Stick and Openwrt Router WAN? Did it automatically update to MAP-E mode after switching to official device? I'm new user of NURO. It's been MAP-E since the beginning I've just been using it for two weeks. No warning letters for now. Dose other people receive warning in MAP-E mode?

Mine already in MAP-E before using SFP, didn't got any warning for over 1 month used. It look like they sent letter to the dualstack user only.
Since NURO MAP-E is just trash (can't change DNS, can't port forwarding, etc..), I don't have reason to continue use it. If I got warning letter then I'll move to other provider, paid some money to buy a static IP and use whatever device I want.
Not sure why people hype with NURO, but haft year of construction, threaten user not use their devices, not allow to use 3rd party device, forcing user to use MAP-E, not allow user to buy static IP, even if NURO is top notch in speed, It's still unacceptable at least for me and people who want to play with their network or just get better gears.

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Venix42 commented Oct 3, 2024

Hello Guys, SGP200W user here.
I followed the instruction provided by @bi119aTe5hXk to get the data from the router info screen, but My MA5671A seems to be stuck in O3 and refuses to go further.

When I check the Status page the LOID seems to be empty, even if I filled it. What could be the issue?
Thank you!

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@Venix42
PLOAM password should start with 53594E43B...
53594E43 is "SYNC" in hex

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Venix42 commented Oct 3, 2024

@bi119aTe5hXk Thank you for your time.

I already tried that, but somehow, when I set that, It keeps jumping between O2 and O3

Also, the password is truncated, so I don't know if it takes it into account properly or not.

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O2 or O3 is authentication failed.
Try moving the POLAM password to the LOID checkcode (password).
NURO may have changed the authentication requirement if it still doesn't work.

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tinysun commented Oct 8, 2024

你收到警告的时候是 map-e 模式吗?还是说在用 DHCP 双栈? 你有没有改 猫棒 和 Openwrt 路由器 WAN口 的 MAC 地址? 换成官方设备之后就自动更新成 MAP-E 模式了吗? 我是新装的nuro,默认就是map-e,刚用两个星期。暂时未收到警告信 有其他人在 MAP-E 模式下收到警告吗?
When you receive the warning, do you using MAP-E mode or still using DHCP Dual stack? And did you changed the MAC address of PON Stick and Openwrt Router WAN? Did it automatically update to MAP-E mode after switching to official device? I'm new user of NURO. It's been MAP-E since the beginning I've just been using it for two weeks. No warning letters for now. Dose other people receive warning in MAP-E mode?

Mine already in MAP-E before using SFP, didn't got any warning for over 1 month used. It look like they sent letter to the dualstack user only. Since NURO MAP-E is just trash (can't change DNS, can't port forwarding, etc..), I don't have reason to continue use it. If I got warning letter then I'll move to other provider, paid some money to buy a static IP and use whatever device I want. Not sure why people hype with NURO, but haft year of construction, threaten user not use their devices, not allow to use 3rd party device, forcing user to use MAP-E, not allow user to buy static IP, even if NURO is top notch in speed, It's still unacceptable at least for me and people who want to play with their network or just get better gears.

I have been using map-e since installation, but I also received a warning letter.

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tinysun commented Oct 8, 2024

Hello Guys, SGP200W user here. I followed the instruction provided by @bi119aTe5hXk to get the data from the router info screen, but My MA5671A seems to be stuck in O3 and refuses to go further.

When I check the Status page the LOID seems to be empty, even if I filled it. What could be the issue? Thank you!

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the same setting? you must reboot the MA5671A,when you setting.

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How do we know that these devices were detected because of failed TR-069 update? Would connecting the NURO device to the network and forwarding port 7547 to it work to avoid this detection in the future?

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hldh214 commented Oct 9, 2024

How do we know that these devices were detected because of failed TR-069 update? Would connecting the NURO device to the network and forwarding port 7547 to it work to avoid this detection in the future?

IIRC NURO's device only accepts fiber as input.

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True. I'm not an expert but could a media converter to go from RJ45 to fiber optic be used?

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tinysun commented Oct 9, 2024

True. I'm not an expert but could a media converter to go from RJ45 to fiber optic be used?

TR-069

Openwrt can be compiled into TR-069 (https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/wan/tr-069). And through the decompiled content in this topic, we can know the address, username and address of linking TR-069. But we don’t know how NURO authenticates the device. Cracking this may involve some legal issues, so it should be difficult to disguise NURO devices. In addition, NURO upgrades the device through TR-069. Even if we disguise the NURO device, there will be some problems when sending the firmware. NURO still knows that our device is not online.

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tinysun commented Oct 9, 2024

True. I'm not an expert but could a media converter to go from RJ45 to fiber optic be used?

use MA5671A to do it.

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How do we know that these devices were detected because of failed TR-069 update? Would connecting the NURO device to the network and forwarding port 7547 to it work to avoid this detection in the future?

NURO has dropped tr069 and acs, now they manage ONUs directly via omci. third-party ONUs can’t fully emulate all omci messages, so avoiding detection is impossible.
the only way around it: hack into NURO ONU and tweak the firmware to stop forcing the router mode connection.

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tinysun commented Oct 9, 2024

I tried using an optical splitter to connect the NURO device and the ma5671a to one optical fiber, but I was unable to authenticate both devices at the same time. Only the device that was plugged in first could be authenticated and become O5, while the other device on the back street could only be O3.

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tinysun commented Nov 6, 2024

有人收到警告信后被强制断网吗?
Has anyone been forced to disconnect from the Internet after receiving a warning letter?

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hldh214 commented Nov 6, 2024

有人收到警告信后被强制断网吗? Has anyone been forced to disconnect from the Internet after receiving a warning letter?

According to the letter, if I do not use the ONU provided by Sony by the end of October, it will be considered a breach of contract.

However, I have been using it without any internet interruption until now. Nevertheless, I have already applied for another provider and I plan to terminate my contract with Nuro this month regardless.

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2024.11:
When using nuro 10G with MAP-E enabled, third-party ONUs won’t obtain IPv6 connection, making bridging no longer possible.

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tinysun commented Nov 8, 2024

有人收到警告信后被强制断网吗? Has anyone been forced to disconnect from the Internet after receiving a warning letter?

According to the letter, if I do not use the ONU provided by Sony by the end of October, it will be considered a breach of contract.

However, I have been using it without any internet interruption until now. Nevertheless, I have already applied for another provider and I plan to terminate my contract with Nuro this month regardless.

我被强制断网了,设备一直显示O3应该是把我设备号封锁了。
I was forced to disconnect from the Internet, and the device kept showing that O3 must have blocked my device number(pon-sn).

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我在deadline前夕换回已经改了桥接的hg8045q目前还能正常使用

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tinysun commented Nov 15, 2024

我今天打电话了,说大概10天左右给我把号复活,但是要求我必须使用他家的设备。
I called today and they said they would revive my line in about 10 days, but they required me to use their equipment.

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我已经提前解约了, 蹭着涨价犹豫期解约的。结果只是免了3000的解约手续费 还是要付光纤安置费的尾款...
nuro要是能让我直接拿到固定ip地址(付费option也行)那我都愿意续费...但可惜非biz plan完全没办法

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tinysun commented Nov 19, 2024

我已经提前解约了, 蹭着涨价犹豫期解约的。结果只是免了3000的解约手续费 还是要付光纤安置费的尾款... nuro要是能让我直接拿到固定ip地址(付费option也行)那我都愿意续费...但可惜非biz plan完全没办法

我现在用的是SGP200W装回去以后很意外的发现这款设备支持ipv6的vlan能再分出IPv6-PD,暂时先坚持用着吧。遗憾是ipv4的mape的1000个端口没法使用。速度也从2g降到1g了。暂时先将就着用吧。没啥别的好办法。不知道什么时候能开放mape的端口。

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