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Agenda

  • ???

Attendees

  • Sebastian Nagel
  • Perry Wasserbauer
  • George Flerovsky
  • Reza Baram
  • Sasha Bogicevic
  • Tudor Cotruta
  • Philip Di Sarro
  • Pi Lanningham
  • Ilia Rodionov
  • Benjamin Hart
  • Franco Testagrossa
  • Noon van der Silk
  • Trym Bruset
  • Caiña Costa
  • Sam Leathers
  • Lucas Pedro
  • Sandip Pandey
  • Jingles
  • Martin Schere
  • Aaron Boyle
  • Jingles K

Notes

  • Incremental commits
  • Partial fanout
  • https://cardano.ideascale.com/c/idea/130826
  • Aiken
  • Could try plutarch (George says more performant than Aiken!)
  • Hydra in the Browser (with Pi)
    • Ledger in the browser?
    • AltNodes?
      • Wasm
    • Networking
  • Interoperability
    • Lots of Hydra heads
    • Savings and chequeing accounts
    • Very rapid networking
  • Gumyworm
    • "Composability across the boundary"
    • Instead of sending to address; send with datum; mint tokens?
    • Withdrawal across layers
  • Can do something similar like Hydrazoa for deposits re: datums
  • Common language for doing these operations; agreement
    • Pi, Phil, George working on these details
    • Goal of the working group as well!
  • Discuss interoperability early, to avoid fragmentation!
  • Hydra interoperability between themselves can look a little different than between completely different L2s
  • Start an FRO
  • Interhead hydra has a scalability issue
    • Braiding is an option?
    • HDLCs are an option instead
  • Phantom tokens
    • cardano-scaling/hydra#358
    • Tokens minted and burned on the L2
    • What about non-Ada tokens in Hydra?
      • x Tokens in
      • y Minted in Hydra
      • m Burned
      • What happens now?
    • Extra field for Phantom tokens?
    • Allow minting tokens to be input
      • On fanout reject
    • Need to handle arbitrary closings
    • How to handle this?
    • Minting policy needs to recognise this specific instance of the Hydra head
    • Whitelist of white things the L2 can mint based on what the L1 has permission to mint (doesn't have to be everything that the L1 can mint.)
      • Can this be done dynamically like incremental commits/etc?
      • Governance mechanism to change these things?
  • Metadata/Metric collection

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