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So are you saying it won't be possible to implement the vibration? Would be happy to do any testing, if it helps.

Not sure if a ding in the app would help much - I guess it's a question of taste, but I would find it rather annoying and leave it turned off. What I would see as a benefit in the app would be a TTS readout of the new gear.

So are you saying it won't be possible to implement the vibration? Would be happy to do any testing, if it helps.

no i just said that i tried but it's harder than i was expecting. I just gave it a single test. If a ding is not useful let's stay with the master plan :)

I will try again in the next weeks

TTS is it already a thing, if you want i can add a tts for the gear too

I know about the TTS, but as far as I understand only reads the current values in certain predefined intervals. In this case we would need a read out directly when shifting, or ideally with a small delay (1s?), so that it ignores multiple quick shifts at once and only reads out the "final" gear

yes i mean I can do it :) but i guess for you the vibrate feedback is better or also tts in tandem with it could be a good thing?

It's two completely different topics, I would say. I would love both.

@satchafunkilus are you watching this too? #2751 (comment)
I just finished it in case you are interested

Sounds cool, happy to check it out as well. For this function in particular, I could imagine a beep/click or some audible feedback to make sense, so you know how many gears have changed, especially if there is a small delay in the trainer. Could of course also be solved by the vibration ideally, but I think in this case some fallback would be great, as long as we don't have vibration. Otherwise I would imagine it very hard to know how long to keep the button pressed.

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send me an email to roberto.viola83 at gmail.com indicating this ticket and if you are on android or iOS. Thanks

i added a 0.5 delay. so it's backward compatible, as long as you are pushing more it's increasing too. it feels very similar to what zwift does i guess. let me know!

Yes, think the same. Will be great to have a tactile feedback about gear shifting. Since the buttons are a bit stiff, sometimes I don't understand whether is press registered or not. Tactile feedback on Zwift controllers will be more comfort and better. But vibration (haptic feedback) on phone is better than nothing.
What's so hard about getting a vibration command from Zwift? They encrypt the data exchange and it's hard to figure out what command they use for vibration?

They encrypt the data exchange and it's hard to figure out what command they use for vibration?

yes exactly, i have to figure out which commands send

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good news! handled!

Just gave it a quick spin. It only vibrated on some shifts (maybe 10-20% of the time) and only with a pretty big delay of a second or so.

debug-Sa__Dez__28_13_31_58_2024.log

Appears to be linked to the debouncing. When I turn off debouncing, it vibrates every time, but then also shifts 3-4 gears at once

@satchafunkilus I'm checking thanks! Strange! With my zwift play it works fine! But for sure there is a explanation!

@satchafunkilus Is it possible that it works only when you are going down with the gears and not up?

I guess I got it, I'm attaching a screen for me as a note

@satchafunkilus Just confirm me that it's working only one way. If it's so, I guess I got it

@satchafunkilus Is it possible that it works only when you are going down with the gears and not up?

Yes, currently it’s working quite consistently. It vibrates twice on downshifts and not on upshifts.

Perfect I got it, I will send you a new one later today

I tested with zwift play and they have a small little difference

@satchafunkilus new one sent, let me know!

Fix works great now on zwift ride. One suggestion I have is to give a different feedback when you have reached the end of your gears and it cannot shift any further. So if you‘re on gear 1 and try to shift down it could do a triple vibration or a long vibration or something like that. If this is not possible, we could maybe have no vibration in those cases.

mmm ok i will think about it (because now, in order to send it without latency, i'm doing any control at all). i will play around with it.

done @satchafunkilus i'm sending you a new one!

This is really awesome now. Thanks so much 👌

@satchafunkilus Amazing! Did you try also the new build with the settings improved? I improved the speed of the settings menu and also I binded the fact that the switch button can switch only if you click on the switch and not to the whole line

Yes I did - works fine 👍