Dust discrepancy between BLT1850 and FMTHIST #30
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From I understood from previous email exchanges:
@dmleung: correct me if I am wrong? Please could you confirm there is nothing to worry about. |
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If the main question is whether or not the dust emissions in B1850 are
reasonable and that the difference between B1850 and F2000 seems
reasonable, we could do two tests. First, would be a F1850 case. Second
would be to look at the trends in dust emissions in a land-only historical
case. The difference in dust AOD between B1850 and F2000 does seem pretty
large and while the historical record may indicate that dust emissions
between 1850 and 2000 should be different, my understanding was that CESM
was not able to reproduce that trend, even with the new dust scheme and
that this was an area of active research (e.g., land degradation, which is
not captured in the land model (think dust bowl), is one candidate reason
why the model cannot reproduce observed dust trends, but there are
others).
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regarding my LAI question, I can't really tell what the dust and MEGAN
schemes are doing in clm_Driver
<https://github.com/ESCOMP/CTSM/blob/1d824b8c2eb95159d8e247ca7c71cd177223de59/src/main/clm_driver.F90#L802>?
Maybe @ekluzek <https://github.com/ekluzek> can clarify?
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One more plot on this topic. B-104 was an old historical run that used the Zender scheme, which looks like it has flat dust emissions throughout the historical run. Since this is similar to what we saw with Zender in the IHIST case (above) I might not expect increases in AODDUST over the historical period with Leung. @cecilehannay was your concern with the total AODDUST burden over the observational record, or more of a curriosity with the difference between the B1850-BGC and F2000-SP cases? |
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We noticed that since we used the new dust scheme, there are large differences between pre-industrial B cases and present-day F cases.
For similar dust parameters,
The two cases use different compsets and different time periods.
One other distinction is that the F-case use
CLM%SP
and the B-case usesCLM%BGC
, which could lead to differences in LAI. And even if they were both BGC, there would be different land properties in these two different time periods.Both runs use:
Lands diagnostics are here
The runs are in (until there are scrubbed)
/glade/derecho/scratch/hannay/archive/b.e30_beta04.BLT1850.ne30_t232_wgx3.116
and
/glade/derecho/scratch/hannay/archive/f.e30_alpha04a.FMTHIST.ne30_L93_tuning.008
Maybe everything is ok and the differences are expected but we want someone with expertise to look at this.
See also: #19 (comment)
@dmleung, @PeterHjortLauritzen, @adamrher, @dlawrenncar, @tilmes, @olyson, @slevis-lmwg, @wwieder
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