Validating new antibodies (optimal concentration of antibody, control tissues, etc) #156
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Hello everyone, Excuse me, I have some questions about how can I correctly validate new antibodies for their use on IBEX. I am working with human paediatric thymi and I want to analyse stromal and epithelial compartments. Most of my antibodies are already validated. However, I have 4 new markers that have never been tested and are very important to characterize subpopulations of our interest. Therefore, I would like to ask you about the following points:
I thank you in advance, any kind of help will be very useful. |
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Hi Moisesoagj! Thank you for your EXCELLENT questions! So excited for your study in the thymus! It's an exquisite organ. We recently published an organ mapping antibody panel for the human thymus, OMAP-17. Hope this is helpful to you! 1A. Titrate the antibody or "What concentration of antibody should I use for validation tests?" 1B. Titrate the antibody or "How many titrations do you recommend?" 2. Controls 3. One slide per marker or multiple markers per slide 4. Quality control panel 5. Order of antibodies I appreciate this is a lot of information and, unfortunately, a lot of it really depends on your tissue, your panel, your instrument, etc. Happy to walk through details specific to your experiments. Best of luck! |
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Dear Andrea,
This is an exceptional and very useful information. Exactly the answers to
what I had asked, many thanks. Regarding the quality control panel, I
designed the next one considering each anatomical structure of the thymus,
please let me know what do you think.
My best wishes :)
Moi
Cycle Chanel Marker Anatomical Structure Clone Dye Vendor Host/Isotype
Catalogue
1 488 Lamin A Nucleous 133A2 FITC Thermo Fisher Scientific Mouse / IgG3
MUB1101L1
555 CD31/PECAM-1 Vessels WM59 PE Thermofisher Mouse IgG1, κ 12-0319-42
594 CD3 Cortex and medulla stroma UCHT1 iF594 Caprico Biotechnologies Mouse
IgG1, κ 1053136
750 Lumican Capsule and trabeculas Polyclonal Customize/CoraLite® Plus 750 R&D
Systems Goat/IgG AF2846
2 594 CD45 Cortex and medulla stroma F10-89-4 iF594 CapricoBio Mouse IgG1,
κ 1016136
647 Keratin 8 Cortical Epithelium H1+TS1 AF647 Novus Biologicals Mouse
IgG1, κ NBP2-34627AF647
750 Keratin 5 Medullary Epithelium Poly19055 BL750 custom conjugate
BioLegend Rabbit / IgG 905501
El lun, 1 jul 2024 a la(s) 2:46 a.m., Andrea Radtke (
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… Hi Moisesoagj!
Thank you for your EXCELLENT questions! So excited for your study in the
thymus! It's an exquisite organ.
We recently published an organ mapping antibody panel
<https://www.nature.com/articles/s41592-023-01846-7> for the human
thymus, OMAP-17 <https://humanatlas.io/omap>. Hope this is helpful to you!
*1A. Titrate the antibody or "What concentration of antibody should I use
for validation tests?"*
-Manufacturer recommendations *can* be helpful, if listed. However, the
manufacturer is unlikely to report your exact tissue preservation method,
antigen retrieval conditions (if FFPE), and imaging set up. Instead, the
concentration of the antibody, if available, can provide key details about
the antibody formulation.
-Example 1: This Keratin 10
<https://www.novusbio.com/products/cytokeratin-10-antibody-de-k10_nbp2-47650>
antibody from Novus Biologicals lists a concentration of 0.2 mg/ml under *Packaging,
Storage & Formulations*.
-Example 2: This Keratin 5
<https://www.biolegend.com/en-us/products/keratin-5-polyclonal-antibody-purified-10956>
antibody from BioLegend lists a *Concentration* of 1 mg/ml.
-The antibody in Example 2 is 5X more concentrated than Example 1, so a
lower dilution (1:200) versus (1:40-50) could be used for pilot tests.
*-What I do:* When initially testing antibodies, I always start with A
LOT of antibody (1:50 dilution, 10-15 ug/ml) because I would rather see
something and then titrate accordingly. There is always a danger of a false
negative from adding too little antibody.
*1B. Titrate the antibody or "How many titrations do you recommend?"*
Due to the tedious nature of imaging, I don't exhaustively titrate
antibodies like with flow cytometry. The biggest things to consider when
titrating your antibodies is 1) optimal signal to noise and 2) minimal
spectral overlap. I find that I have to do more careful titrations with
adjacent fluorophores and dim and bright markers. In OMAP-17 Cycle 5,
Aquaporin 1 AF647 was SUPER bright and spilling into Ki-67 AF700. We had to
titrate Aquaporin 1 at least 5 times to arrive at 1:3000 to be compatible
with the 1:25 dilution for Ki-67. Antibody dilutions can be highly
dependent on the panel and not just the individual antibody, if that makes
sense? Happy to discuss/advise via email (andrea.radtke "at" nih.gov).
*2. Controls*
Great question! Positive controls are always needed for antibody
validation but how to determine the best controls? As an example, when we
worked up our OMAP-17 thymus panel we could use other lymphoid tissues
(lymph node and spleen) to validate most of the immune and structural
markers. The thymus itself could be used to validate markers that are found
in abundance in the thymus and have a well established labeling pattern in
the tissue, defined positive and negative cell types, and subcellular
location. For example, FOXP3 would be enriched in the medulla and found in
the nuclei of CD3+CD4+ T cells. Markers used to define rare mTEC
populations required other tissues for validation. We used the pancreas to
validate chromogranin A. Vendor sheets can help identify good positive
control tissue. See the example images for this Chromogranin A antibody
<https://www.novusbio.com/products/chromogranin-a-antibody-lk2h10_nbp2-34672>.
Human Protein Atlas
<https://www.proteinatlas.org/ENSG00000100604-CHGA/tissue> is
tremendously helpful for understanding the spatial distribution of a
marker. I understand that it is not always possible to get other tissues
prepared according to your specifications. This is why community antibody
validation efforts are so helpful such as the IBEX Imaging Community and
OMAPs. Hopefully, you can find an antibody against your marker of interest
validated in either your tissue or a different tissue prepared using the
same fixation and antigen retrieval conditions. When in doubt about the
best control tissues for your marker, ASK the discussion forum! We will
help:)
*3. One slide per marker or multiple markers per slide*
This depends on the antibodies and the microscope you will be using. In
general, I prefer to use simple panels (3-4 fluorophores per tissue section
max) in well separated fluorophores: Hoechst, AF488, AF555, and AF647 when
initially testing antibodies. While our more sophisticated microscopes can
separate AF532/AF555, AF555/AF594, and AF647/AF700, spectral overlap often
occurs between these channels when antibodies are improperly titrated in
the initial pilot tests (See 1A). Another consideration is whether these
antibodies are conjugated or require secondary antibodies to visualize.
-Example 1: With these three antibodies Chromogranin A antibody
<https://www.novusbio.com/products/chromogranin-a-antibody-lk2h10_nbp2-34672>,
Keratin 5 (
https://www.biolegend.com/en-us/products/keratin-5-polyclonal-antibody-purified-10956),
and Lumican (
https://www.rndsystems.com/products/human-lumican-antibody_af2846), you
could design a panel with a donkey anti-mouse IgG AF488 to detect
Chromogranin A, a donkey anti-rabbit IgG AF55 to detect Keratin 5, and a
donkey anti-goat IgG AF647 to detect Lumican.
-Example 2: If testing more than one unconjugated mouse, rabbit, goat, etc
primary antibody, then you would have to separate across tissue sections.
Yes, it is possible to do different anti-mouse isotype antibodies. I have
used that approach in OMAP-17 (anti-IgM and anti-IgG, the order matters)
and other projects. Happy to share my favorite anti-isotype secondary
antibodies with you.
*4. Quality control panel*
Yes, this is critical! I always recommend screening tissues with a small
panel that covers major anatomical structures and cell types in your tissue
of interest. This gives you a "lay of the land" and allows for critical
evaluation of the tissue before IBEX imaging. This saves you from wasting
time and resources on bad tissue. It will be dependent on the tissue you
are imaging.
*5. Order of antibodies*
Yes, the order of the antibodies can definitely impact antibody
performance. It is impossible to test every combination of the antibodies.
For this reason, I evaluate the performance of the panel on individual
serial sections in parallel with IBEX imaging. Discussed in Figure S5
<https://www.pnas.org/doi/full/10.1073/pnas.2018488117>.
-Simple 2 Cycle IBEX experiment example: From the same tissue block, cut
multiple tissue sections. Prepare 2X amount of the antibody cocktail needed
for Cycle 1 and Cycle 2 antibodies. Apply Cycle 1 antibodies in the IBEX
chamber. Cycle 1 does not need to test for steric hindrance or sensitivity
to LiBH4 treatment. Put sensitive antibodies and unconjugated primary
antibodies in this cycle. For Cycle 2 panel, apply half of the Cycle 2
antibody cocktail to the IBEX imaging chamber and the other half of the
antibody cocktail to a serial tissue section that has not been labeled with
Cycle 1 antibodies or dye inactivated with LiBH4. Compare the labeling
pattern of antibodies visualized in serial versus IBEX imaged tissue. If
comparable, then antibody can be in Cycle 2. If lost/diminished, then move
to Cycle 1.
I appreciate this is a lot of information and, unfortunately, a lot of it
really depends on your tissue, your panel, your instrument, etc. Happy to
walk through details specific to your experiments. Best of luck!
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Dear Andrea :)
Considering the alternative options that you mentioned, and also
considering the need to test the antibodies after that strange situation
with the dry ice, I constructed the next panel for running the
Quality Controls and for testing the antibodies:
CD205 (FITC) [Cortex Epithelial Compartment]
CD31 (PE) [Vessels]
CD45 (AF594) General Stromal [General Thymic Stroma]
HLA-DR ( AF647) General Stromal [General Thymic Stroma]
Keratin 5 ( AF750) Medulla [Medullary Epithelial Compartment]
What do you think?
Best wishes and good start to the week,
Moi
El mié, 3 de jul. de 2024 4:32 p. m., Andrea Radtke <
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… Hi Moi:)
Thank you so much! So happy it was helpful! Thank you again for your
questions and for asking them openly in the discussion forum.
Thank you very much for sharing your panel design details. Indeed, a panel
that allows one to survey the major anatomical structures of the tissue to
assess tissue quality is key. For our OMAPs, we ask all author to highlight
4-6 key markers to examine in their tissue. This serves as a quality
control panel, in a way. See Figure 2 part 1
<https://www.nature.com/articles/s41592-023-01846-7/figures/2>.
This looks like a good panel!
- Lamin A: This will label the nuclear lamina of cells. I know from my
colleague Nadav, that the TEC populations of the thymus uniquely express
this marker based on scRNA-seq. The quality of antibody labeling varied
from sample to sample in our hands. We think this is due to differences in
tissue handling times, but we don't really know. In summary, this marker
can serve as indicator for thymus tissue quality, at least for us. However,
it is not a critically important marker for assessing anatomical structures
and cell types in the thymus. In our OMAP (OMAP-17
<https://humanatlas.io/omap>), we detail the following markers for the
"core panel" in Column W with rationale provided in Column X: CD8, CD3,
CD4, HLA-DR, DEC205, and Lumican.
All the other markers you selected are excellent. You will have all immune
cells (CD45), vessels (CD31), trabeculae/matrix (lumican), and key mTEC and
cTEC markers (Keratin 5 and Keratin 8).
Two suggestions:
1. Strongly recommend inclusion of DEC205 for the cortical TECs. We
found that this cell type varied widely between samples. We excluded
samples that had a notable absence of cTECs. I need to find some example
images for you. I imagine Keratin 8 would be able to reveal these
differences but I am not sure.
2. Your panel currently has:
- Lamin FITC (AF488 channel)
- CD31 PE (AF555 channel)
- CD45 iF594 (AF594 channel)
- Keratin 8 AF647 (AF647 channel)
- Lumican AF750 + Keratin 5 BL750 (AF750 channel). These two
antibodies will conflict.
An alternative:
- Lamin FITC (AF488 channel)
- DEC205
<https://www.novusbio.com/products/dec-205-cd205-antibody-jb87-35_nbp2-75467>with
a donkey anti-rabbit AF555, CoraLite 555 FlexAble kit (seems like you are
using these!), or Zenon AF555 kit.
- CD45 iF594 (AF594 channel)
- HLA-DR AF647 (AF647 channel); This will give you all antigen
presenting cells (DCs, B cells) and TECs. Beautiful! The L243 clone works
beautifully and is available through many vendors.
- Lumican AF750
Excited for your work! Please share your dye inactivation results with the
community so we can share here
<https://ibeximagingcommunity.github.io/ibex_imaging_knowledge_base/fluorescent_probes.html>.
We don't have CoraLite 750 yet.
Thank you and best wishes,
A
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Hi Moi! Thank you so much. I hope you are having a great start to your week! Looks good! Minor edits (in italics): Best of luck and we will resolve the issue with the antibodies soon. Hopefully, they are all okay. Best wishes, |
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Hi Andrea,
Many thanks :) everything is going well, I also hope you are having a nice
week. Excellent recomendations. Let me speack with Alex to purchase the
CoraLite 488 kit to label CD205 as soon as possible and start working.
We've spoken with Colin and we are planning to run the first High Quality
Control sample in 10-15 days ( beacause I need to complete a fire induction
to have access to the UCL Institute of Oftalmology). So, the revamped panel
for these Quality Control samples is:
CD205 (CoraLite 488) [Cortex Epithelial Compartment]
CD31 (PE) [Vessels]
CD45 (AF594) [*Pan-immune marker]*
HLA-DR ( AF647) [General Thymic Stroma]
Keratin 5 ( AF750) [Medullary Epithelial Compartment]
And many thanks for that Andrea, we will be updating you on next weeks. I
also hope that all Abs are perfect 🙌🏼.
Best wishes,
Moi
El mar, 9 de jul. de 2024 2:02 a. m., Andrea Radtke <
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… Hi Moi!
Thank you so much. I hope you are having a great start to your week!
Looks good! Minor edits (in italics):
CD205 (FITC) [Cortex Epithelial Compartment] *How will you visualize it
with the FITC conjugate? Will you use the CoraLite 488 FlexAble kits or an
anti-rabbit FITC secondary antibody?*
CD31 (PE) [Vessels]
CD45 (AF594) *Pan-immune marker not general stroma*
HLA-DR ( AF647) General Stromal [General Thymic Stroma]
Keratin 5 ( AF750) Medulla [Medullary Epithelial Compartment]
Best of luck and we will resolve the issue with the antibodies soon.
Hopefully, they are all okay.
Best wishes,
A
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Hi Moisesoagj!
Thank you for your EXCELLENT questions! So excited for your study in the thymus! It's an exquisite organ.
We recently published an organ mapping antibody panel for the human thymus, OMAP-17. Hope this is helpful to you!
1A. Titrate the antibody or "What concentration of antibody should I use for validation tests?"
-Manufacturer recommendations can be helpful, if listed. However, the manufacturer is unlikely to report your exact tissue preservation method, antigen retrieval conditions (if FFPE), and imaging set up. Instead, the concentration of the antibody, if available, can provide key details about the antibody formulation.
-Example 1: This Keratin 10 antibody from Novus …