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Add option "space the session store backup gap interval to preserve ssd" and disable accessibility service and make pop-up message warning updater at starup and make the browser even more popular by making it compatible with windows 10 #167
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When R3dfox starts, a message pops up to warn that r3dfox must be updated. I think it is a waste of CPU resources. |
@jonm58 , when it comes to warning to do an update likely to solve bugs, it is not a waste of resources and in addition it will be optional like when r3dfox checks if it is the default browser, I expressed myself badly, i mean our hope when we click on "about R3dfox", we would like to see a pop up message appear r3dfox is not up to date, sometimes we forget to go to github to check if there is an update, in addition this option will make the browser more accessible to non-experts and the masses and rdinary people |
Is this the max supported number? |
Yes, but session store can be disabled totally |
It being compatible with Windows 10 is a given. I also mention "Aero Glass or accent color on 8/10+!" on the website and SourceForge pages.
I'm not making losing all your pages when power outage able to be easily accidentally ticked. If we can come to a more agreeable number, I might make it the default.
I disable it at compile time so not applicable here. |
Interesting, thank you so much :) 💯 🥇 So just to check, you said "I disable it at compile time so not applicable here.", so accessibility service is disabled by default and cannot be enabled? I disable accessibility service on firefix and chromium by activating the auto disable accessibility flag except on browsers where I install important extensions like open in vlc and the free download manger extension, that's why I have a special browser to surf the web and a specific browser with extensions enabled just to download video or use the open in vlc extension, and I fear that if accessibility service is disabled in R3defox, it affects the normal operation of these vital extensions for me because video streaming freezes lag in the html5 web browser on my old eee pc, is there a way to enable accessibility service in R3defox please? |
ac_add_options --disable-accessibility
I think I did it because Mypal 68 does it, and nobody complained, so I figured I'd take the speed boost. I'll think about it. |
Thank you ! ac_add_options --enable-accessibility to the desktop shortcut of R3dfox ? about session store, this is just my personal opiniion, from my experience, it is a useless option because it is used to permanently save even in an inactive state the size , position of the tabs, windows....and even if there is a crash of the os or browser, we can find the lost tabs by consulting the history..... in any case it is frightening and an ecological disaster that a web browser even in an inactive state consumes 25 GB of data in one day in 2016 and it has been proven, after this scandal, web browsers have taken measures to minimize session store in case of inactivity but it remains an energy disaster and our ssd or old hdd can die and fans nisy and it s a useless function, I wrote emails, used extensions, watched download videos.....without any problem with session store disabled or spaced to the maximum .... i don't say it should be disabled but add easy option to choise the value of session store interval could be awesome feature..... librewolf browser disable cache and has dtrcit privacy options that may can breake functionality and web compatibility, and I think our beloved R3dfox is the most serious competitor of librewolf browser and the best replacement of firefox because it uses a recent version of firefox and especially after the recent deactivation of telemetry which weighs down the web browser like dns prefetch, captive portal.....and we hope please R3dfox will be compatible with windows 10 and windows 11, just disable telemetry in windows 10 will make R3dfox rare and awesome, thank you :) firerox forks use an old esr lts version of firefox and librewolf which uses a recent firefox makes questionable decisions like disabling the cache.....that's why R3dfox is the best alternative to firefox ! 💯 |
Mr @K4sum1 , to avoid getting tired if one day you plan to add the space session store interval option, I already talked to the developers of the firefox-based Floorp browser last year and they introduced this space session store interval option in the Floorp settings months ago ! |
I already tried taking some settings from Floorp. They like completely replace the Firefox preferences, so I basically would have to rewrite it for r3dfox anyways. |
Yes, developers of Floorp are nice, i suggested to them to base floorp browser on a more recent version of firefox and abandon the esr version but the developer told me the amount of maintenance and work will be huge if floorp uses a recent version of firefox every month....but floorp remains a stable and innovative browser.....i tried the 32-bit version of floorp but the 32-bit version refuses to install in my windows 7 32 bits and i got an error message, fortunately we have our beloved R3dfox :) |
So Mr @K4sum1 , you said to me about accessibility service " I disable it at compile time so not applicable here." my concern is about the Native client of the capital Open in vlc extension : https://github.com/andy-portmen/native-client https://github.com/andy-portmen/open-in-vlc so Mr @andy-portmen , does disable accessibility service in firefox : accessibility.force_disabled 1 https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/accessibility-services affect the normal functioning of Native client please? |
I discover very new browser, open source, zen browser, maybe it wiil be good idea to add some of his new features : |
Update : i install and zen browser is not compatible with windows 7 .... |
Accessibility is now included with 130, disabled by default, GUI option to disable/enable it. https://github.com/Eclipse-Community/r3dfox/releases/tag/v130.0.1rc I might look into a slower sessionstore backup option later, but I wouldn't want to have any option much slower than a minute or so. |
Awesome ! Thank you so much for these revolutionary improvements !! 💯 🥇 I think it's good to keep the default value of session store, and possibly add an option by putting a warning danger signalling to modify with extreme caution: "increase the session store timeout", this way there will distinguish from chromium browsers because there is no this flag in chrome and it would allow people who leave their web browser open all day and all night to save their old or entry-level ssd ..... plus there may bemany people who only use web browsers to watch videos or use HDMI so the importance of the session store diminishes.... Let's hope that Mozilla will do tests on the impact of the session store if we leave the web browser open all the time and reveal the result to us.... Thank you again for all these exceptional improvements that improve our lives :) 💯 |
Mr @K4sum1, I was seriously mistaken, I thought Zen browser was a good project, maybe it is but zen blocked me just because I asked myself the question why their generic version which claims to be compatible with old devices is not compatible with windows 7, the problem lies in @mauro-balades who dared to ask for money so that he supports windows 7 when he sees that windows 7 users have old laptops and if they have money, they would buy modern laptops instead of giving him money especially since firefox esr is compatible with windows 7 so we don't need THIS mauro to use firefox for windows 7 !!! this mauro dares to say that the firefox esr version is not secure !!! mauro copies the code of mozilla and also insults mozilla by claiming firefox esr for businesses is not secure which damages the reputation and prestige of @mozilla and businesses can file a complaint against @mozilla for these imaginary security flaws invented by this ungrateful mauro who copies the code of firefox !! r3dfox is really the best browser because Mr @K4sum1 is polite, modest and does not think about money in an abusive and outrageous way! I think I'm going to denounce this Zen browser developer who takes Mozilla's work and dares to ask for money to develop a version for Windows 7, Mozilla must file a complaint against this ungrateful Mauro, Zen monopolizes Firefox users and can harm the Firefox source project whose number of users is falling and Zen dares to take market share instead of just helping Mozilla regain market share against Chrome and instead of suggesting their improvements and ideas to the Firefox team @mozilla, r3dfox is different from Zen because Mozilla does not give us a modern Firefox with the latest version of Firefox kernel so r3dfox is necessary, Zen reduces Firefox's market share and the Firefox project risks being buried, @mozilla must prohibit Zen from taking its code and prohibit this Mauro from asking for money while this mauro uses the firefox code! this mauro's behavior is unacceptable and shameful, justice must take a look at this mauro's actions |
Alr man, let me keep things straight with you, because I dont know if you are actually trolling or if you actually have some sort of mental condition.
I've never, ever asked you for money. Stop making things up. You keep thinking im some sort of mozilla spy or something, but im just an OSS developer, go annoy big corporates, not small developers. You can cry as much as you want, but stop mentioning me, fuck you are annoying, ungrateful little child. From now on, you'll just start talking to yourself, no one cares about you bro, stop it |
Your defamatory comment here filled with illogical claims and misinformation clearly shows why he decided to block you from the repository. I'm not even gonna bother correcting you because your clear lack of OSS knowledge is enough to show just how illogical your claims are. Besides, Mauro clearly wants everyone to move on, so I'll be doing that. Stop playing the victim and grow up please. Like Mauro said, go annoy Mozilla if Firefox's declining market share annoys you so much, instead of spreading misinformation on another Firefox fork's repository. The world doesn't revolve around you. |
haha you blocked me from zen page , you can't block me from r3dfox page lol, i never said you are a secret firefox employee and i don't care if you are a mozila or google guy, @mauro-balades , you said : zen-browser/desktop#1783 (comment) and you accused official firefox esr of being insecure, |
https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/firefox-users-windows-7-8-and-81-moving-extended-support bro how can I block you so you stop annoying me, I dont care if you dont delete the comments lol, you look like an absolute dummy |
He @trimechee doesn't even understand generic != legacy
The generic page stated it's for old hardware, not old Windows. If you claim something, bring screenshot/link to it, claiming shit without anything to back you up is bullshitting at the very best. |
@trimechee Why the fuck are you so fumed that Zen won't support Windows 7? And was it really necessary to bring some reference to fascism into the discussion because someone who responded to you was German? We gave you two solutions: either upgrade to a new system or use Linux. You ignored this and still decided to argue in the Zen Browser repository, and now you're just attacking others in here that try to correct you, which is why I've decided to hop on the discussion here. And it's my freedom to decide what I do on GitHub, so stop trying to use "I never mentioned you" as an argument, you look like a clown doing so. Mauro has absolutely no obligation to "help Mozilla" or support legacy software. If you don't like that, move on and stick to r3dfox instead of spreading misinformation on Zen and Mauro. We told you Windows 7 support is not possible because of Mozilla and development time constraints, yet you chose to ignore the facts and present nothing but pure BS to the table through unfair and illogical comparisons and false statistics. (Note: I am perfectly okay with comparing Chromium and Firefox-based browsers, as long as they actually prove something and are done with proper logic and reasoning. The comparison you made does not have either of those.) Quoting your previous comments at Zen Browser:
These are Chromium browsers. Firefox-based browsers can't support Windows 7 if Chromium-based browsers do, because they use completely separate code.
You're comparing a single-core Windows 7 system to a multi-core Windows 10/11 system, of course Windows 7 isn't going to struggle with "distributing tasks across the multiple cores" because it only has one core to work with.
You do not properly cite your source here. But more importantly, this number is completely inaccurate - the "30 people" are likely total contributors, not core developers. These two are different. Your behavior is in no way productive, and it would make Mauro want to bring Windows 7 support to Zen even less than he does now. In the end, your comments are only laughing stock for us really, not a source of motivation. Reflect on your own behavior instead of asking others to block the people that correct you. We're not in middle school or Twitter/X, we're on GitHub. Be professional and respectful (and keep your immaturity in an appropriate place), or everyone will laugh at you. |
green dev, i didn't read your post becaue at begining, , you lie by saying i said developer is nazi because he is german, you lie, i said neo nazy may come back because of actual serious economy crisis in germnay .....i block you and r3dfox should block you to prevent spam and lies |
Tagging people in, then blocking them to prevent them from throwing shit at you. This is next level, don't play with fire if you don't want to get burnt, there's no smoke without fire. |
@anatasiajp, they are the ones who clashed with me and disrespected me because I asked for a version for Windows 7 with a view to collaborating with Mr K4sum1 so that the workload would be reduced for Mr K4sum1 ..... once again I did not say that the developer who refuses the Windows 7 version is a nazi, I said and it is the truth, the extreme right and the fascist parties are gaining power in Germany and Europe, and why is this developer egocentrically encouraging zen BRoWSER not to support Windows under the pretext that Windows 7 is not secure? windows 7 looks like windows 10, and if widows 7 is not secure, we have to add an unsecured browser to it? did he think about the ecological disaster of throwing away windows 7 devices? that people can't afford to buy a modern laptop? people have been disrespectful to the developer of r3dfox, what do you think? anastasia do you use r3dfox or are you from zen? anastasia, do you know that my grandmother suffered the nazi bombings? you know that nazis invaded my country and westerners came to fight with them in my poor country and that caused destruction in my country? germany did not give us compensation, and then I see a german who opposes that windows 7 is supported and therefore that the sons of my fellow citizens who suffered from the nazi vs west war cannot use old computers with a modern secure web browser? we are not humans? are you russian? do you know that germany helps ukraine against russia? a zen developer said that he can support windows 7 if we send him money, do you think it's good to ask for money when in theory, many windows 7 users are poor? |
@anatasiajp, I tagged them because zen blocked me and zen's coloborators can continue the discussion and maybe clash with me without me being able to defend myself, do you find that moral honorable ethics when I am polite and correct even they insult me ? I blocked them because until now, I have been polite and I can become very vulgar with the unjust, and I offered to calm the situation and that I apologize and delete my comments if they apologize but he refused with vanity and mockery by insulting me, @anatasiajp I take a look at your profile, you develop a downloader to donwload from https://pornradise.com/, is pornradise a porn sex site? I'm not accusing you because porn can be used with food for example, but enlighten us and tell us if your downloader is legal to download from this site? |
@anatasiajp how do you know i blocked them? you talked to them and you are a friend of these people? here there is freedom of expression unlike the dictatorial forum of zen the unjust, American government site no longer supports firefox so much the number of firefox users has dropped and zen is trying to take the remaining users, it's moral ? money from donations that zen earns, does zen give part of the money to @mozilla? @mozilla gave them the agreement to make a competing fork of firefox? r3dfox supports windows 7 with the latest kernel which mozilla does not do for windows 7 so r3dfox is legitimate unlike zen |
Hello, R3dfox has unique rare features like disabling Electrolysis = battery preserved, and so I don't know if it is the case or not, if our beloved is compatible with windows 10, it will be great please announce it and specify it clearly on the main page of the project on github or the Eclipse Community site, it will make the project even more popular that it is compatible with windows 10 and to distinguish itself from other browsers, please add a function to space out the session store gap interval backup to preserve the ssd:
browser.sessionstore.interval 2147483647
and option to disable accessibility which can cause bugs or slowdowns and even mozilla advises to disable the accessibility service:
accessibility.force_disabled 1
i read study session store in firefox and chrome could consume up to 25 GB per day which will destroy the ssd, now firefox and chrome have tried to reduce the amount of gigantic data of session store but it remains a danger for our old hard disk or cheap ssd, I put:
browser.sessionstore.interval 2147483647
and I did not encounter any bug or problem since years, and it will be optional and will allow R3dfox to stand out from competitors and earn moreand more donations, thank you very much!
we also hope please a warning updater, ie just a pop-up message at the start of R3dfox to warn us that we must update r3dfox, no need for a background updater service or scheduled task that wastes resources, just a manual check at startup and a warning message with the link to github releases of R3dfox to download, thank you very much:)
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